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Tuesday, March 8, 2011

East Bay Political Clout Lessens As Population Shifts Inland

CENSUS: BAY AREA IS GROWING FAR LESS THAN THE REST OF THE STATE
By Steven Tavares

The East Bay along with the entire San Francisco Bay Area is seeing an unprecedented change in its ethnic demographic, according to U.S. Census figures released Tuesday.

Asians and Latinos found significant gains in several East Bay cities, yet the overall flow of the population is skewing radically away from the region in droves for the Central Valley.

While the state grew by 10 percent in the last decade, the Bay Area lagged far behind. Alameda County’s 4.6 percent population increase is alarmingly low next to its neighbors in Contra Costa and San Joaquin Counties. While Contra Costa grew by 10.6 percent, hyper growth in San Joaquin is a whopping 21.6 percent. Riverside County in Southern California followed a similar shift in demographics as the East Bay and led all counties in expansion by adding over 350,000 residents, representing a 41.7 percent increase.

The large discrepancy between counties ensures East Bay congressional districts representing a portion of San Joaquin voters will now receive an even larger portion of the more conservative constituency. Reps. Jerry McNerney and Pete Stark, already representing a portion of Tri-Valley, will likely have their districts further transformed. Reps. Barbara Lee and John Garamendi will likely face similar situations in the north.

San Leandro, which grew a healthy, by East Bay standards--seven percent--still fell well behind the state average. It added over 4,500, increasing its population to 84,950. The East Bay city followed similar changes in its racial composition to nearby San Lorenzo and Hayward. With the latest census, San Leandro now possess three nearly equal racial minorities. Already one of the most diverse cities in the Bay Area, San Leandro demographic is now topped by Asians (29.3%), Latinos (27.4%), whites (27.1%) and blacks (11.8%).


Hayward showed similar increases with Latinos making up over 40 percent of the population, followed by Asians (21.6%), whites (18.8%), black (11.3%). Hayward’s population rose by almost three percent to 144,186. San Lorenzo also contains more Latinos than any racial demographic at 37.7 percent of its 23,452 residents. It is followed by 32.4% white, 21.1% Asian and just 4.5% black.

Two East Bay cities gained Asian majorities for the first time. Union City at 50.4 percent of its population edged Fremont at 50.3 percent for the largest percentage in Alameda County. The trend follows similar increases in neighboring large cities in Oakland, San Francisco and San Jose.

126 comments:

  1. Do you blame them? With all the high taxes, high crime and general stupidity why do you think they're moving out?
    Manuel

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  2. While I realize the recession hasn’t been with us for most of the last 10 years, but this has to be one big reason for people living. It’s tough out there and maybe losing a house you could’nt afford in the first place is good push out the door for somewhere else or another state.

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  3. Nice tweets. How did you get the numbers out so quick? By chance, is there any thoughts out there on where and why Oakland lost so many African-Americans. Seems interesting.

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  4. These numbers are all wrong. I didn't send in my census and nobody came to my door to ask how many people live in my house nor do I think the gubmit has any right to know.

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  5. Huge white flight out of San Leandro. Way more than I thought was occuring. I am also surprised the Black population went up by several % and several thousand people when it is not growing in CA. Now a higher % Black than Hayward and almost 3 x's San Lorenzo's % and more than double San Francisco's and California's % at 6%. Interesting SF's white population increased by a couple % to 43% vs. 27% white in SL.

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  6. I agree Barry, the steep difference in blacks in San Lorenzo as opposed to its neighbors stuck out like a sore thumb. I'll look for an answer. Of course, I asked a San Lorenzo resident about it today and they had a snide response ready for me.

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  7. White people don't care about San Leandro. They don't care to live there. Most are trapped and hoping for a way out.

    "Diversity" has had a negative impact on crime and public schools. The Asians here are the poorer, uneducated immigrants. Once they start getting education and better jobs, they'll head out to the peninsula, Tri-Valley or out of state. Usually only takes a generation (or less) for the Asians to improve their social standing. We can learn a lot from them.

    San Leandro used to be the white suburb that professional educated blacks aspired to live in. Now it's become the ghetto to which professional, educated blacks aspire to get out of - except maybe Brian Copeland though he does put his kids in private schooling.

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  8. Do people STILL believe in the Census? As I reported on here during the 2010 Census, I witnessed and videoed three takers "making up" numbers at a McDonalds. When they came to my house in Hayward, I told them that "there area 2 people living here, no, four...actually, five. Me and the rest were hispanic." Yes, I lied.

    When I moved from LA back here, I took the Census taker test; figured extra money. I scored a 100. The next best score...79. My point...who were the census takers? I am no genius but I was in a room full of...lets just say, people really needing money...I could not video the Supervisor who said..."if you have to, guess." It was that comment that made me say "no thanks." That and I got a full-time job. (I'd be happy to post my test and offer for all the bored haters.)

    Census means nothing...its another political tool.

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  9. I feel a bit like I lost a relative that started rehab and failed. I work in Pleasanton now (1 month) and used to work in downtown SF. Live here because it was a good commute to the City via BART, a nice house and nice weather with a view in Bay O Vista and I thought it had some potential. Seems like might be time to move on, SL feels like it is on a continual decline from my observations and really has little to offer - its not urban creative class living with interesting people and places to go and it is not a nice middle class, safe and clean suburb with good schools and the problem, free life that a nice suburb should have. Kind of a nowhere place with no identity. Its sad and really to bad, Emeryville turned it around, but San Leandro missed the boat and now I fear it is too late, SL is too far into the decline cycle to attract the millenials or creativce energy it needs to rebound and reinvent.

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  10. Exactly Barry. When you have generations of morons running City Hall, all oh whom had to have Jack Maltester's blessing to get in, INCLUDING Ellen Corbett this is the result. When you have GREEDY public employees led by John Jermanis DEMNANDING increased taxes to pay for their lush life style this is the result. When you have IDIOTS placed on Boards and Commissions, people with less sense than the Councilmen whom appointed them, this is the result. When you have BONEHEADS like Tavares advocating for more welfare housing this is the result.
    Manuel

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  11. Why is Big Shot Nick stalking Mary Hayashi at crab feeds? Seems odd.

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  12. Lovely that an anonymous commenter would claim to speak for the entire white community. I'm white, live in San Leandro and love my town.

    Also, the racial stereotypes just

    I'd invite Manuel to name any City public employees other than retired Administrators and other managers/chiefs enjoying a "lush life style".

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  13. Sterotypes have a basis in reality, why do you think there is Black flight from Oakland. If even Blacks want to escape the crime and thugish behavior of their own ghetto crowd, why would SL peole not want to escape from it too and for that matter why would SL folks want to have the ghetto folks and all the related crime, filth and nasty behavior in our own city??? Wake up and smell reality. Its not racism if we are talking about reality.

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  14. Sarah, how about part time librarians getting paid full time pay for part time work? Look at the pay scales for the jobs. Sorry sweetheart, every single employee in City Hall is milking the system and we taxpayers are footing the bill.

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  15. Oh Big Shot, where are you? Out stalking Mary Hayashi? You loon, why the hell would she care if she saw you scarfing down crab? You're just another face in the crowd. A younger Lou Filipovich.

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  16. Anonymous 10:48, name a part time librarian getting paid full time for part time work. Every single City employee is making at, or below, the average wage for their job classification. They haven't received a wage raise in years, have taken numerous furlough days, and are picking up half of all their medical increases. If they're milking the system, they're doing a poor job of it. Are you misinformed or just stupid?

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  17. Oh bullcrap you moron. Every employee getting below average for "job classification". You expect us to believe such crap. A part time librarian working 20 hours a week is getting paid $48,000 a year. THAT you idiot is a full time wage for part time work. What bong pipe are you smoking? OOOOH big deal, picking up half of their medical increases. you poor baby. Are you misinformed or just stupid? Oh right, you work for the government so you're just stupid. I bet you're sorry ass doesn't even live in San Leandro, but you work here and expect our taxes to be raised to pay for your lazy @$$.

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  18. Sarah,
    No private company allows their employees to retire after 20 years or even 30 years with full pay and benefits. Who came up with this crap; "oh 30 years is a long time, let's give full pay and benefits".You are an idiot. Who do you think you're talking to some stupid Tony Santos supporter. Every government worker is a sloth milking the taxpayers. They don't even pay into Social Security. Wake up to reality you fool.
    Manuel

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  19. Manuel--FYI--San Leandro Employees pay into Social Security as do many other government employees. Do your homework before spewing venom.

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  20. When did government employees start paying into Social Security? That's new to everyone.

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  21. Hey Sarah, what about the cops and firmen milking the system to 6 figures a year? They aren't worth that much.
    Manuel

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  22. Hey Manuel ( whose real name is Paul Vargas), if Police and Fire have it so good why didn't you become a Policeman or Fireman? You couldn't pay me enough money to risk my life every day like they do! Put up or shut up you gutless right-winger. I'm happy you never came close to winning office in San Leandro.

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  23. Some government employees pay into Social Security and therefore get to collect it. Some don't--Quite a few years ago they were given a choice of whether to stay in the system or opt out. Many chose to stay in because they felt it was the right thing to do. If it was up to me everyone would have to pay into the system, public or private employee, and there would be no upper cap for millionaires, above which you don't have to pay. This would keep the system fully solvent for our lifetime, and our children's (+ their children's), too.

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  24. The Police and Fire Departments milk the overtime system for all it's not worth. And you fools keep raising your own taxes to pay for their lavish pay and perks. If the SLPD is doing such a damn good job why is crime so high in San Leandro? Why are we paying the Fire Department hourly when they're not putting in hourly? The Fire Department is a joke and should be reformed.
    Manuel

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  25. Crime is high due to the demographic and economic class changes in SL and nearby. More Black = More Crime. Its not racism, its just a fact and I am Black.

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  26. Manuel/Paul hates San Leandro. To hear him tell it, he's hated San Leandro since the 1960's. Love it or leave it, I say.

    His arguments are also very untrustworthy. For example, crime is DOWN in our City. I read this in the San Leandro Patch:

    "Overall, the number of crimes in San Leandro reported to the police department last year was the lowest in the past 30 years, according to department statistics....Crime was down in San Leandro by 8 percent last year compared to the previous year. The number of robberies, stolen vehicles, aggravated assaults and rapes all decreased last year, while the number of commercial and residential burglaries increased."

    So, Mary, your stereotypes are not reality. Perhaps they're something else....

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  27. The number of robberies, stolen vehichles, aggravated assaults and rapes are all at unacceptable levels and no where near where they should be. Among the highest in Alameda County outside of Berkely and Oakland. Burglaries are up. So you see's John, your stats are the ones that are untrustworthy. Not a nice try.
    Manuel

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  28. "La Sean Jackson". Yeah, sure you are....

    LOL

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  29. Paul Vargas/Manuel never lets the facts get in the way of his lies. Paul go to the police department's home page and read, if you can, the crime statistics for the last few years. John's facts are spot on. Thank goodness we never elected you!

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  30. It's interesting that no one can realistically refute Manuel, so you have to resort to baseless accusations and statistics that have no bearing in reality. He's right on the money and you people can't handle it. It's amusing how anonymous won't post his name but attacks Manuel.

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  31. I hate to tell you but robberies and burgalries are what makes a place feel unsafe, an invasion of your own person, your business or your home is very personal and undermines your sense of safety, security and comfort. My area is under siege for burglaries and I along with 4 immediate neighbors on my block have had their homes broken into or cars stolen in the last 2 years. The Policeman stated most arrests in our area are of Black and Hispanic males, noio prejudice intended, just a fact. I dare you to compare our crime rate in SL to that of Pleasanton and tell me we are low crime.

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  32. Refute what? His arguments are all slurs, no facts.

    Mr. Souza, did you go to the article quoted, or to the PD's home page?

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  33. Yes John, I looked at the home page and as Barry said; robberies and burglaries are what makes a place feel unsafe. Like Barry said; compare Pleasanton with San Leandro. Hundreds of stolen vehicles versus a few dozen. Why do you gloss over the facts??

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  34. 1980 to Date Totals
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P
    1 SAN LEANDRO PART 1 CRIME TOTALS
    2 1980 THROUGH 2010 TO DATE
    3
    4 Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec YTD
    5 Year
    6 1980 430 429 468 389 396 421 380 465 398 418 382 452 5028
    7 1981 435 489 496 436 403 405 465 476 415 431 466 498 5415
    8 1982 443 405 437 438 440 406 404 468 334 410 413 463 5061
    9 1983 361 376 402 366 321 369 379 379 317 395 350 375 4390
    10 1984 388 330 371 371 346 404 391 400 404 382 384 486 4657
    11 1985 409 407 420 401 439 393 450 427 355 346 337 426 4810
    12 1986 424 380 438 389 426 474 501 485 442 413 426 504 5302
    13 1987 463 445 499 462 504 482 526 483 383 441 416 473 5577
    14 1988 420 475 476 398 451 429 493 459 449 463 433 379 5325
    15 1989 445 448 472 429 484 445 494 444 407 408 407 409 5292
    16 1990 381 365 376 322 373 357 361 403 382 388 426 422 4556
    17 1991 422 357 421 361 407 403 445 468 447 511 439 470 5151
    18 1992 444 417 544 426 467 513 413 439 447 446 451 423 5430
    19 1993 482 463 515 574 513 498 475 647 576 543 487 564 6337
    20 1994 565 422 512 493 618 512 651 570 472 549 528 520 6412
    21 1995 558 491 580 479 499 539 577 578 519 516 458 497 6291
    22 1996 520 469 526 506 518 454 451 475 450 451 418 477 5715
    23 1997 469 393 514 464 451 417 446 431 466 405 412 445 5313
    24 1998 406 351 404 384 427 411 450 419 388 421 357 395 4813
    25 1999 441 373 387 375 381 394 389 333 373 339 376 365 4526
    26 2000 378 320 350 392 410 375 388 375 266 326 331 400 4311
    27 2001 374 328 369 360 402 442 472 413 450 478 407 448 4943
    28 2002 392 355 379 458 409 406 481 510 400 453 415 415 5073
    29 2003 399 392 473 454 421 401 437 404 403 438 414 434 5070
    30 2004 414 382 434 341 421 405 427 378 447 382 323 385 4739
    31 2005 428 370 413 458 452 350 399 378 398 415 407 484 4952
    32 2006 477 365 410 377 488 423 462 436 413 426 398 440 5115
    33 2007 393 349 380 442 415 379 413 420 422 414 412 409 4848
    34 2008 424 463 435 478 407 380 408 334 370 351 365 415 4830
    35 2009 353 301 402 353 397 340 355 369 303 362 331 371 4237
    36 2010 375 318 327 306 292 285 313 340 306 368 331 329 3890
    37 2011 371 371
    38 Average 428 394 440 416 432 417 442 439 407 422 403 438
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  35. What do these numbers represent? Total "crimes" reported? So we're supposed to say that although the number of burglaries, robberies, aggravated assaults and car thefts have soared over 30 years, the number of times Mrs. Santos called in to report that the dog across the street walked on her lawn dropped therefore the TOTAL number of crimes reported has dropped so therefore San Leandro is really a safer city than it was 30 years ago? bahahahahahaha Don't insult us.
    Manuel

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  36. Manuel/Paul Vargas--try and stay a little informed. You could go to the police department's website and find out what these numbers mean. Part 1 are serious crimes, and they are what are reported here. Glad you were never elected in this city--your lack of doing the simplest homework is absolutely incredible. Serious crimes in 2010 are at the lowest level in 30 years and dropped every year since Santos was Mayor. bahahahaha!

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  37. Serious crimes? Don't try to white wash that serious crimes; assalut, burglaries, car thefts, armed robberies are all up and no where near the levels of the 1980's. You're not talking to some Santos supporter or City Hall employee. Nice try being a smart babooze but no bacalau for you.
    Manuel

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  38. I find it a little hard to believe that a person who cannot even divulge his name is so admant in attempting to win an argument that he has lost. Crimes in San Leandro are way higher than Pleasanton and Dublin. Facts are facts yet we continue to have an anonymous poster expect us to believe they are real.

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  39. Proud San LeandranMarch 17, 2011 at 1:42 AM

    Frank, it's quite possible for crime in San Leandro to be at its lowest in 30 years and at the same time have crime rates higher than other cities. See, the fact is that San Leandro has LOWER crime than before, and crime has trended down for many years here.

    Claims that the increased minority population in town has raised crime are absolutely false. Look at the stats above. We had our highest crime rate fifteen years ago and more, when we had a higher percentage of whites in town. Misguided, desperate people come in all colors.

    Barry, I'm sorry about what's happening in your neighborhood and hope it improves quickly. Burglaries are absolutely upsetting, but it doesn't reflect the city as a whole.

    Assaults, car thefts, armed robberies were all down last year, Manuel; it's only burglaries that were up. Why do you insist on lying? Your lying and relentless hatred makes for very tiring comments threads.

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  40. Look at the number of assaults, car thefts, armed robberies and burglaries you idiot. You're lying and relentless hatred makes for tiring threads you fool. You're not talking to some idiot who works for the government. To sit there and say that everything is wonderful in San Leandro, that it's some type of utopia and the best it's been in 30 years just goes to show what an absolute bong head you are. Obviously you haven't lived here that long. Crime was just as bad 15 years ago as today. So don't try to white wash everything.
    Manuel

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  41. Lies, damn lies and statistics.

    With the urban ghettonization of San Leandro now complete, the thug element now dominates the culture.

    Maybe San Leandro's crime hasn't gone up according to city statistics; but in 2008-2010 you had a surge of violent takeover robberies; a video store half a mile from the police station robbed at gunpoint 5 times; the owner of the Englander being shot in the face; Wells Fargo ATM carjackings--and more recently 2 fast food establishments being robbed at gunpoint, home invasion robberies where the residents were tied-up, and "gangsta" shootouts at hip-hop dances.

    According to Yelp, Bayfair Mall (which sells urban gangsta clothes and caters to the thugs) is the most ghetto mall in the East Bay.

    Has San Leandro's black and Hispanic "diversity" contributed to this? Well, just look at crime statistics for the less "diverse" Tri-Valley. About 1/20th less.

    You be the judge.

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  42. Statistics are reality and tell the true story. Go on the Police site and argue with them if they aren't right. I've lived in S.L. since before 1980 and my neighborhood is safer now than before. Just because S.L. has become more diverse doesn't mean we are less safe. Leave S.L. if you right-wingers don't like diversity!

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  43. Oh yeah, statistics are reality? No they are numbers and numbers will not keep your car from being stolen, a gun held in your face right in daylight. Don't try to get us to believe that night is day and day is night.
    Manuel

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  44. Proud San LeandranMarch 17, 2011 at 6:56 PM

    As San Leandro has become more racially diverse in recent years, crime has gone down. It angers me that our angry/petrified commenters refuse to acknowledge this fact. I wonder what's in it for them to be so blinded by their prejudice.

    Clothes sold at Bayfair Mall have nothing to do with the purchaser's ability to follow the law. What a deeply silly statement.

    Every generation selects clothing and music that the previous generation doesn't understand. I am certain that many of the people hating on San Leandro in this thread did the same themselves when they were growing into their teens and yound adulthood. Those who didn't were very strange indeed. Who wears the same style of clothing as their parents when they're 18?

    Were the greater numbers of violent crimes in the 90's, 80's and 70's less threatening to our anonymous commenters because they were committed by non-"ghetto" types?

    Some of the San Leandrans Brian Copeland ran into during his childhood are on this comments thread.

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  45. Hey moron, the crime in this town has shot up with more "diversity". Don't try to lump broken windows in with armed robbery, rape and car thefts. It is silly to to think that attracting a ghetto/thug population to shopping areas is not going to lead to increased crime. These numbers are flawed you those who defend them are defending the indefesible and either don't live here or voted for Tony Santos, or work for the City.

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  46. Proud San LeandranMarch 18, 2011 at 9:42 AM

    Quoting from the San Leandro Patch story:

    "....Crime was down in San Leandro by 8 percent last year compared to the previous year. The number of robberies, stolen vehicles, aggravated assaults and rapes all decreased last year, while the number of commercial and residential burglaries increased."

    The most violent crimes were down. Looking at the Police Department's statistics, we can see that this continues a long trend over the last five years of crime going down every year in our City.

    I'm sorry that the presence of people with skin differently coloresd from yours causes you to piss your pants. While you change your underwear and rant "the coloreds did it", life moves on around you.

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  47. Most violent crimes are down? Murder was always low, if there's a blurp it's a once in a while thing, but the FACT is that armed robbery, burglary, car thefts are all high and at unacceptable levels. I'm sorry that people of "color" commit more crimes in the places they live, but as you piss your pants, they don't seem to want to change.

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  48. Manny if you're so miserable in San Leandro--just leave. The rest of us who look at facts instead of your racist perceptions are just laughing at you.

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  49. Reality is Blacks commit more crimes, that is not racism, it is just a fact. Stop playing the race card and clean up your community.

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  50. Yep--point out the obvious that certain minorities commit most of the crimes, and you're labeled, "racist and sheeet...."

    These white liberals don't get it until "diversity" literally smacks them upside their heads. And then some of them still don't get it.

    And yes, most smart people who can afford to do so are leaving. Diversity has sure helped San Leandro schools be a lot better and safer than they were 20 years ago- that's why people are flocking to San Leandro in droves for the schools, right?

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  51. A 14% dropout rate in San Leandro Schools, mostly black and Mexican kids. San Lorenzo Schools, with the same types of kids, has a lower dropout rate. Corvallis School has the same test scores as the "gem" of Roosevelt and Corvallis has more of the "uneducated" Chinese parents that the liberals have disparged in this blog. Those who can't argue with facts have to resort to the only word they know; "racism". Sorry Charlie, no cigar for you.
    Manny

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  52. You do realize that a 14% dropout rate is much, much better than both the State and National average, don't you?

    Why has crime in our City gone down as diversity has gone up?

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  53. You have to be an idiot to think that a 14% dropout rate is acceptable. Therefore, you are a moron and unworthy of further conservation.
    Manuel

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  54. conversation. But conservation sounds good too. bhahahhahahahahahaha
    Manuel.

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  55. Proud--don't try and confuse Manny aka Paul Vargas by stating facts--he just wants to believe that over 5000 Type 1 serious crimes in 1980 is less than under 4000 Type 1 serious crimes in 2010. We're comparing apples to apples, but he wants to live with his ultra-conservative perceptions. I live in San Leandro too, and crime is way down since the 70's when I moved here.

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  56. Oh, another babooze who is sipping the absinthe. He can't argue the facts so he makes up stories about things he knows nothing about.

    Oh really? Crime is way down since the 1970's???? Are you too on the wormwood? We didn't have to worry about thugs kicking down doors in the 1970s. But, then as we do now you had to worry about walking along the Oakland border. E. 14th St., Bancroft Avenue and MacArthur Boulevard north of Dutton Avenue have never really been safe for elderly people to walk at any time of the day. And that section of Broadmoor where Beverly and Warwick run straight into Oakland has always served as a quick getaway for burglars. It's so sad that the Left has to make up excuses for their failures and always blaming the victims for the crimes of criminals. In the 1970's Bayfair Mall and downtown were thriving and very safe to walk and shop. Not no more. But according to the baboosh above these areas are like fields of daisies. bahahhahahhaha

    Manuel

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  57. Manuel, why do you keep trying to argue with the data? It makes you look like a fool.

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  58. Hey, babooze, the data doesn't lie; burglary, armed robbery, car thefts are all high and at unacceptable levels. For idiots like you to say otherwise only makes you like the fool you are. Sorry Charlie, no cigar for you.
    Manny

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  59. Manny--did you forget the argument, or did you finally look at the data? All serious crime is unacceptable--the fact is it's lower now in S.L. than 30 years ago, which until now, you refused to believe.

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  60. Sorry Big Mouth, but it's not lower now than it was 30 years ago. You attempt to lump gum wrapper litter with armed robbery and car thefts. Sorry you're brain dead, but that's another story.
    Manny

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  61. Manuel;

    Again, don't try to argue with those who have less intelligence than yourself. Anyone who thinks crime in San Leandro is lower today than 30 years ago is obviously delirious and since they refuse to post a name, not worthy of further discussion. Of course this anonymous person doesn't give any decrease in crime to it's real answer; the overwhelming sucess of California's 3 Strikes laws which prevents the lower forms of society from committing crimes on the civilized population.

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  62. When you resort to name calling--you already lost.

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  63. Thank you Mr. Sousa, I will refrain from further discussion with the ghost writers.
    Manuel

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  64. Proud San LeandranMarch 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM

    Sounds suspiciously like our "conservatives" on this comments thread have a solution to reduce the crime rate to the homogenous "paradise" they long for, Pleasanton: Return to the '70's- Kick out the Blacks and Mexicans!

    "San Leandro was an 86.4% white-non Hispanic community according to the 1970 census. African-Americans were excluded by the use of "covenants", as well as the collusion of real estate agents, some of whom refused to sell houses to African-Americans. The police were purportedly to sometimes harass African-Americans who crossed the border into San Leandro from Hayward and Oakland."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Leandro,_California

    Is this the policy you prefer, guys?

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  65. In the 1970 Census Mexicans were classified as "white" unless they were obviously Indian. There was no "white non-Hispanic" classification in the 1970 Census. To quote Wikipedia is useless and unreliable. The Fair Housing Act was passed in the 1960's therefore your assertion of housing discrimination in the 1970's is another falsehood.
    An allegation of police harrassment? Anyone can claim that fairytale.

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  66. Proud San LeadransMarch 21, 2011 at 10:27 PM

    It is painfully noticeable that you somehow avoided the discussion of San Leandro's Black population in our 1970 Census.

    The FHA was passed in 1968. There was no housing discrimination, such as covenants, which affected the population balance of San Leandro in 1970? Prove your assertion.

    I believe that there are many ways that the Wikipedia entry can be proven true. For example:

    "On May 6, 1967, San Leandro Mayor Jack Maltester testified at a hearing of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, which was investigating housing discrimination.

    The (beginning) of Maltester's testimony follows.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. The next witness is the Hon. John D. Maltester. Whereupon, the Hon. John D. Maltester was sworn by the Chairman and testified as follows:

    TESTIMONY OF THE HON. JOHN D. MALTESTER, MAYOR OF SAN LEANDRO, CALIFORNIA

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. Would you please state your full name and address for the record.

    MAYOR MALTESTER. It's Jack D. Maltester, 715 Woodland Avenue, San Leandro.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. What is your occupation?

    MAYOR MALTESTER. Half owner in a printing business and mayor of the city of San Leandro.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. How long have you been mayor?

    MAYOR MALTESTER. Since 1958.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. Are you also a member of the city council?

    MAYOR MALTESTER. Yes.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. What is the population of San Leandro?

    MAYOR MALTESTER. The last official population was 69,000, close to 70,000, and anticipated at this time probably closer to 75,000.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. You think it's about 75,000?

    MAYOR MALTESTER. Yes.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. How many Negroes live in San Leandro?

    MAYOR MALTESTER. I cannot tell you to the exact amount. I get two different reports. I would guess it's between 20 and 25, 26.

    MR. GLICKSTEIN. Twenty or 25 persons or families?

    MAYOR MALTESTER. Persons.

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  67. Proud San LeandranMarch 21, 2011 at 10:45 PM

    Police harrassments of Blacks in 1970-era San Leandro is a "fairytale"? Prove that assertion.

    Also:

    "On May 31, 2007, the San Leandro City Council's Human Relations Committee released a draft document entitled, "Chronology of City of San Leandro’s Efforts to End to [sic] Housing Discrimination and Promote Community Diversity." The document details the city's attempts to address the discrimination and segregation that became synonymous with San Leandro from the 1950s to the 1970s....

    The earliest city action in the document is July 8, 1968, when the City Council adopted a policy on Community Relations and Responsibilities. However, as detailed in American Babylon, San Leandro actively became a segregated community after World War II:

    Immediately after the war, San Leandro residents erected a figurative white wall along the city's border with Oakland. M. C. Friel and Associates, a Hayward real estate firm with expertise in racial covenants, became the East Bay's leading consultant on shoring up segregation. In 1947 Friel developed a plan to place as much of San Leandro's residential property under restrictive covenants as possible, limiting future property sales to "members of the Caucasian race.""

    Both Mayor Maltester's testimony and this entry are found here:

    http://www.sanleandrobytes.com/archives/cat_history.html

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  68. Proud San LeandranMarch 22, 2011 at 8:34 AM

    Also, this:

    "On May 31, 2007, the San Leandro City Council's Human Relations Committee released a draft document entitled, "Chronology of City of San Leandro’s Efforts to End to [sic] Housing Discrimination and Promote Community Diversity." The document details the city's attempts to address the discrimination and segregation that became synonymous with San Leandro from the 1950s to the 1970s....

    The earliest city action in the document is July 8, 1968, when the City Council adopted a policy on Community Relations and Responsibilities. However, as detailed in "American Babylon", San Leandro actively became a segregated community after World War II:

    Immediately after the war, San Leandro residents erected a figurative white wall along the city's border with Oakland. M. C. Friel and Associates, a Hayward real estate firm with expertise in racial covenants, became the East Bay's leading consultant on shoring up segregation. In 1947 Friel developed a plan to place as much of San Leandro's residential property under restrictive covenants as possible, limiting future property sales to "members of the Caucasian race.""

    Both the Maltester testimony and this entry can be found here:

    http://www.sanleandrobytes.com/archives/cat_history.html

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  69. Proud San Leandrean,

    San Leandro has the trifecta of ghetto blacks, no-speaka-da-English Mexicans and ignorant old Portugee's. You'd have to chase out 80% of the town for it to improve...

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  70. "Anonymous" is Archie Bunker, right? I'm starting to think he's actually a liberal ghostwriting to make conservatives sound like ignorant bigots.

    He certainly lover his City, though. Come to the upcoming City Council meeting and make your case for your changes!

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  71. Proud San LeandranMarch 22, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    Also, this:

    "On May 31, 2007, the San Leandro City Council's Human Relations Committee released a draft document entitled, "Chronology of City of San Leandro’s Efforts to End to [sic] Housing Discrimination and Promote Community Diversity." The document details the city's attempts to address the discrimination and segregation that became synonymous with San Leandro from the 1950s to the 1970s....

    The earliest city action in the document is July 8, 1968, when the City Council adopted a policy on Community Relations and Responsibilities. However, as detailed in American Babylon, San Leandro actively became a segregated community after World War II:

    Immediately after the war, San Leandro residents erected a figurative white wall along the city's border with Oakland. M. C. Friel and Associates, a Hayward real estate firm with expertise in racial covenants, became the East Bay's leading consultant on shoring up segregation. In 1947 Friel developed a plan to place as much of San Leandro's residential property under restrictive covenants as possible, limiting future property sales to "members of the Caucasian race."

    Both this and Maltester's testimony can be found here:

    http://www.sanleandrobytes.com/archives/cat_history.html

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  72. Proud San LeandranMarch 22, 2011 at 6:15 PM

    Also, this:

    "On May 31, 2007, the San Leandro City Council's Human Relations Committee released a draft document entitled, "Chronology of City of San Leandro’s Efforts to End to [sic] Housing Discrimination and Promote Community Diversity." The document details the city's attempts to address the discrimination and segregation that became synonymous with San Leandro from the 1950s to the 1970s....

    The earliest city action in the document is July 8, 1968, when the City Council adopted a policy on Community Relations and Responsibilities. However, as detailed in American Babylon, San Leandro actively became a segregated community after World War II:

    Immediately after the war, San Leandro residents erected a figurative white wall along the city's border with Oakland. M. C. Friel and Associates, a Hayward real estate firm with expertise in racial covenants, became the East Bay's leading consultant on shoring up segregation. In 1947 Friel developed a plan to place as much of San Leandro's residential property under restrictive covenants as possible, limiting future property sales to "members of the Caucasian race."

    Both this entry and the Mayor's testimony can be found here:

    http://www.sanleandrobytes.com/archives/cat_history.html

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  73. Proud San LeandranMarch 22, 2011 at 6:48 PM

    On May 31, 2007, the San Leandro City Council's Human Relations Committee released a draft document entitled, "Chronology of City of San Leandro’s Efforts to End to [sic] Housing Discrimination and Promote Community Diversity." The document details the city's attempts to address the discrimination and segregation that became synonymous with San Leandro from the 1950s to the 1970s. According to a June 2, 2007, article in the Daily Review, the document was prompted in part by San Leandro resident Brian Copeland's memoir "Not a Genuine Black Man," which chronicles Copeland's experiences as a child growing up in a city where black people were unwelcome.
    The earliest city action in the document is July 8, 1968, when the City Council adopted a policy on Community Relations and Responsibilities. However, as detailed in American Babylon, San Leandro actively became a segregated community after World War II:
    Immediately after the war, San Leandro residents erected a figurative white wall along the city's border with Oakland. M. C. Friel and Associates, a Hayward real estate firm with expertise in racial covenants, became the East Bay's leading consultant on shoring up segregation. In 1947 Friel developed a plan to place as much of San Leandro's residential property under restrictive covenants as possible, limiting future property sales to "members of the Caucasian race."

    This entry and the Mayor's testimony can be found here:

    http://www.sanleandrobytes.com/archives/cat_history.html

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  74. Sarah,

    You have to admit, San Leandro was much safer and had better schools when Maltester and Tony Santos chased out all the non-whites.

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  75. Part 1 Serious crime totals in 1980 totaled 5028, 1981=5415,1982=5061. These figures came from the San Leandro Police Dept. as reported to the Feds. Tony Santos was sworn in as Mayor in Jan. 2007. In 2007 Part 1 Serious crimes totaled 4848, 2008=4830, 2009=4237, 2010=3890. So, San Leandro is safer now than it was in 1980 when it didn't have the diversity it does now. I will concede on the schools, and the test scores. It should be noted that that the test scores improved last June compared to the year before, thanks to the new and improved School Board.

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  76. Sorry proud, but the City is declining and the schools are poor. Agreed, its not the race that affects our City, like anywhere else its the economic class. Crime has always been here, the ghetto is next door after all and now its citizens are moving here, same difference. Most of the crimes are committed by Black males and Hispanic males are 2nd. Facts are facts. Are you "proud" our only high school is performiong on a sub par basis with ghett high school test scores and is way below Castroi Valley, Dublin or Pleasanton? Sad you would be "proud" of a City with higher crime and poorer performing schools than its immediate neighbors to the east. Low standards much???

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  77. Liberal morons are "proud" of the diversity of their town and living in a town with bad schools, high crime and a large ethnic population is a badge of honor and testament to their non-prejudice.

    Until they get mugged/shot and/or are no-longer in their precious Roosevelt school district, then they high-tail it out of town...

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  78. Proud San LeandranMarch 23, 2011 at 8:33 PM

    Also, this:

    "On May 31, 2007, the San Leandro City Council's Human Relations Committee released a draft document entitiled, "Chronology of City of San Leandro's Efforts to End to [sic] Housing Discrimination and Promote Community Diversity." The document details the city's attempts to address the discrimination and segragation that became synonymous with San Leandro from the 1950s to the 1970s....

    The earliest city action in the document is July 8, 1968, when the City Council adopted a policy on Community Relations and Responsibilities. However as detailed in American Babylon, San Leandro actively became a segragated community after World War II:

    Immediately after the war, San Leandro residents erected a figurative white wall along the city's border with Oakland. M.C. Friel and Associates, a Hayward real estate firm with expertise in racial covenents, became the East Bay's leading consultant on shoring up segregation. In 1947 Friel developed a plan to place as much of San Leandro's residential property under restrictive covenents as possible, limiting future property sales to 'members of the Caucasioan race.'"

    This and the Mayor's testimony are found here:

    http://www/sanleandrobytes.com/archives/cat_history.html

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  79. Proud San LeandranMarch 23, 2011 at 9:38 PM

    Mary,

    There's some decline these days, just not the types you claim, or for the causes you claim.

    AGAIN, diversity is currently higher than it's ever been in San Leandro, and crime has gone down sharply in recent years, including violent crime. You and others refuse to tell us how that would be possible based on your other claims.

    You present no evidence at all that "Most of the crimes are committed by Black males and Hispanic males are 2nd". Where are your statistics proving this? I don't believe you have any.

    "The ghetto is next door after all and now its citizens are moving here..."? Wow. Okay...

    Lower economic classes are currently being created everywhere in this State (and nation) by race-to-the-bottom trade deals, labor laws which fail to protect decent wages, benefits and workers' rights, failure to invest in our education system, and other causes. For example, in recent years California has been last or near last in the nation in the ratio of teachers to students.

    Lower class is not lower character. These days, more money is stolen by the rich than the poor. By a long shot.

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  80. Lower economic classes are being created by Latino immigrants who can't speak English and will work labor jobs for low, low wages. They've lowered wages of laborers all over.

    Then there are the black African-Americans with no job, no education and no restraint - taxpayer-supported in Section 8 housing selling weed to supplement their incomes so they can afford "they bling-bling" and hundred dollah sneakers. They are literally breeding more future welfare recipients.

    I agree with you about trade laws - wasn't it the left's poster child for no restraint, Mr. William Jefferson Clinton who implemented that?

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  81. SOME COMMENTS ARE BEING SENT TO THE SITE'S SPAM FOLDER. I HAVE EMPTIED IT AND REPOST ALL OF THE COMMENTS AND I'M WORKING ON FIGURING OUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. NOBODY IS BEING CENSURED. I APOLOGIZE AND THANK YOU FOR READING THE CITIZEN

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  82. Prove that blacks were harrassed by the police in the 1970's. More like blacks were harassing residents of San Leandro in the 1970's.

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  83. Proud San Leandran sounds a lot like Craig the progressive poster on here. To answer Craig or Proud's question...my facts come from the police department and officers I have met with. And, it is a well known fact that the top two groups commiting most robberies and burglaries in SL are Black and then Hispanic males, not to mention 80% of the robberies at my local credit union were committed by Black males and over 70% of the murders in Oakland are committed by Black men and the Black % of the population is only 27%. Black males are way over represented in commiting crimes in our society as a % of their population, I do not think anyone can argue with that.

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  84. Proud San LeandranMarch 25, 2011 at 7:25 AM

    Not very proud of the racism here.

    Show your "facts" from the San Leandro Police Department. It's not in the crime statitics I see. It's simple- prove your claims.

    Diversity is up and crime is down in San Leandro. The most violent crimes are down more than other crimes. Those are provable facts. How could that be if your "facts" were correct?

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  85. Proud San Leandrean,

    Go to any federal crime statistics site or visit any jail and you'll see that black African Americans and Hispanics are overrepresented. Even most black people admit this--haven't you heard the Tupac rap line, "The penitentiary is packed--and it's filled with blacks."

    Do you think the nationwide trend is not true for San Leandro because its schools are so great and it's such a crime-free place to live? Is the truth "racist"?

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  86. Proud San LeandranMarch 25, 2011 at 3:28 PM

    I like it. Anonymous seeks to use 2Pac as an authority to justify his view. Good; Anonymous would certainly agree with this statement from 2Pac as well:

    They got me trapped
    Can barely walk the city streets
    Without a cop harrassing me, searching me
    Then asking my identity
    Hands up, throw me up against the wall
    Didn't do a thing at all
    I'm telling you one day these suckers gotta fall
    Cuffed up throw me on tha concrete
    Coppers try to kill me
    But they didn't know this was the wrong street
    Bang bang, down another casualty
    But it's a cop who's shot there's brutality
    Who do you blame?
    It's a shame because the man's slain
    He got caught in the chains of his own game
    How can I feel guilty after all the things they did to me
    Sweated me, hunted me
    Trapped in my own community
    One day i'm gonna bust
    Blow up on this society
    Why did you lie to me?
    I couldn't find a trace of equality
    Work me like a slave while they laid back
    Homie don't play that
    It's time I let 'em suffer the payback
    I'm tryin to avoid physical contact
    I can't hold back, it's time to attack jack
    They got me trapped

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  87. It's the employers who break Labor and wage laws, and the Wal-Marts of the world who bargain collectively while preventing their own workforce from doing the same, that create low pay, not immigrants.

    I'm in agreement with Anonymous that trade deals of the last two decades under Clinton and W. Bush have been bad for the American worker. I'm glad to make common cause on that.

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  88. Proud San Leandrean,

    Here's a mad lib rhyme for you:

    Ghetto-ass _______.
    Pulling on triggers.
    _______ run San Leandro.
    Therefore, it figures.

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  89. ANON.8:40---You are seriously sick and mentally unstable! Is this what the Tea Party represents?

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  90. Have you ever listened to rap? That was very creative. Seems the rappers are the sick and unstable ones, not those who make fun of that trash.

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  91. Hey, ghetto black folks call each other the N word all the time, so it must be what they are. I love all races, ethnicities and all add positive value to our world and make it an interesting place, but trash is trash and I do not like trash, whether white trash or black trash or any other trash. Face it, we have a lot of trash in East Oakland, facts are facts, liberal or conservative.

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  92. Anyone who uses San Leandro Bytes as a source of reference is an idiot.

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  93. Proud San LeandranMarch 27, 2011 at 5:44 PM

    You don't like the almost entirely neutral presentation of information provided above thru San Leandro Bytes. M.C. Friel did not exist, then? How would you interpret the firm's actions in our City?

    What was the Black population in San Leandro in 1967 anyway?

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  94. Besides without the myth of San Leandro racism, Brian Copeland would have to get a real job - or at least as "real" as a college educated black man typically has - perhaps professor of negro studies at Cal State East Bay or weatherman.

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  95. Anonymous above, it's obvious you were not aware or around in the 1960's. I had 2 friends who lived in San Leandro who openly bragged about how white San Leandro was. I had an uncle in real estate who would definitely back Brian Copeland's story of what it was like back then. I live in San Leandro and love how diverse our City is now.

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  96. Openly bragging about how white your town is not racism - it's just bragging that you live in a good place. Just like the rappers like to brag about the black urban ghettos that they "represent."

    There's no question that San Leandro realtors conspired to keep black people from buying houses. But did that directly affect Brian Copeland? I'm guessing he suffered more abuse from his biological father than the alleged name-calling that he suffered.

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  97. Proud San LeandranMarch 28, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    "white..town" = "good place". Hmmmm....OK, Mr. Bunker!

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  98. Poster above is right - because San Leandro, Oakland, Detroit and Washington DC are such desireable places to live, aren't they?

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  99. Oakland was a majority white City before the 1960's. As the blacks moved in, well we all know the result. But, keep blaming San Leandro for Oakland's problems. More it was a reaction to keep San Leandro from becoming another Oakland. Those doing the complaining didn't live here then so they should shut up.

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  100. Proud San LeandranMarch 28, 2011 at 7:28 PM

    Yeah, hear that? Anonymous was happier when San Leandro was segregated. Everyone who disagrees with Anonymous should shut up. STOP DISCUSSING THINGS!!!!

    Comedy gold.

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  101. Sadly we have a ghetto problem on our doorstop nothing to do with race really, just happens to be a Black ghetto next to us. Poverty and broken communities create problems and they have manifested their issues in SL for decades thru higher than the national average crime and much higher crime than the tri valley, bury your head in the sand if you like or hide behind your feel good PC comments, but it won't change the reality.

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  102. I live in san leandro and like it better now with it's diversity than back in the 70's when it was boring!

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  103. Oh really? It was boring in the '70s? Bayfair and Downtown were thriving. Sure you had to watch yourself to avoid getting mugged on E. 14th, Bancroft and MacArthur north of Dutton Ave. Funny how "Proud San Leandran" claims that San Leandro was "segregated" in the 1970's, but doesn't mention the blacks who robbed white people in San Leandro then just crossed over into Oakland. It's always the victims fault with jackasses like him. He never mentions that prior to the 1960's there was little difference between East Oakland and San Leandro and you could cross Durant and not even know you were in Oakland. Castlemont High in the 1950's only had a handful of blacks. Yet that all changed in the 1960's when Blacks moved into East Oakland. But it's all San Leandro's fault that East Oakland became a slum, not the people who made it a slum. But the, "Proud San Leandran" never lived here until recently so it's to be expected.

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  104. Did you hear that; "Proud San Leandran" is proud to live in a City with high crime and failing schools, anyone who disagrees is a racist and should shut up and quit discussing things.

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  105. Proud San LeandranMarch 29, 2011 at 7:59 AM

    Diversity is up and crime is down. That's what is happening in San Leandro right now.

    Anonymous is wrong- I've been in San Leandro for quite a while now. I remember that there were people like him when I first moved here.

    Unlike the anonymous commenter(s), I want to keep discussing things. This conversation is quite clarifying.

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  106. Proud--please keep posting. I love the fact that you point out the statistics that are put out by the Police Dept. and these old conservative racists can't accept them. They keep arguing based on their perceptions and just can't accept the fact that crime is lower now with a more diverse San Leandro, than 30 years ago when we had a larger Caucasian population. I doubt if they have even seen the Police crime statistics. Why they don't go and read them is a mystery to me. Old prejudices fade slowly. Keep up the good work!

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  107. "Proud" likes to anonymously pat himself on the back I see.

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  108. Crime is lower everywhere in the area, crime is still higher here than the tri valley, San Jose and nmany otehr cities. If you want to look at the real benefit of the changes in San Leandro population/demographics, look at our once very desireable High School, it is now pathetic and no middle class family wants to send their kids there and it is causing our property values in the nicer neighborhoods to fall further and faster than suburbs to our east. SF Unified even has better test scores, for heaven sakes.

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  109. WOW, 110 comments, a record for the blog?

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  110. Even Bancroft Junior High is extremely ghetto. Even Proud San Leandrean's black folk hero Brian Copeland puts his kids in private schools. Is there a food analogy that can describe a black man who thinks and acts like a white liberal? Maybe Oreo creampuff?

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  111. The test scores showed improvement this past year. Give the new school board a chance. It took years to destroy our schools, it will take a few years to build the test scores again. The board members elected in 08 and 10, along with the new superintendent, have the test scores finally going in the right direction!

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  112. Test scores? Yeah, with a double digit dropout rate, the SLUSD going in the right direction; right passed the gutter and into the sewer.

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  113. The dropout rate is not good, but has also started to improve. Give the new board and superintendent a chance.

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  114. They need to impose strict standards of behavior and initiate uniforms to get the kids on an even playing field and not focussed on each others "costumes".

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  115. I find it sad, disturbing and troubling that despite the progress I've seen in my 40 years in San Leandro, racist, bigoted morons continue to try to revise and deny history.

    I LIVED IT.

    For a bird's eye view from the past, watch the Suburban Wall documentary which aired nationally on Thanksgiving Day 1971. You can see it on my website at www.briancopeland.com.

    Here is the link.

    http://www.briancopeland.com/e-press/media/video/suburban_wall.mov


    Progressives...keep telling the truth. The ignorant racists will continue to die out.

    San Leandro is a wonderful city which is why I still live here today!

    And as for my kids' schooling...they were educated in Catholic schools, the same as the majority of the White Portuguese kids I grew up with were and I was because WE'RE CATHOLICS!!!!

    Brian Copeland

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  116. Brian Copeland a Catholic? What a joke.

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  117. Proud San LeandranApril 5, 2011 at 7:23 PM

    No evidence at all has been presented to back up Mary's claim that "Most of the crimes in (San Leandro) are committed by Black males and Hispanic males are 2nd". Where are statistics proving this? I don't believe you have any.

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  118. Progressives are regressive - all they do is drive working families and businesses out of the city as they contuinue to destroy our city and our schools. I think the only thing progressives like is blight, grime and crime - then they are happy.

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  119. Proud,
    The evidence is as plain as the hook nose on your face.

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  120. Brian, maybe its the ghetto sub set of the African American population we are exposed to here that is causing fear and dislike. They live by a different set of rules, conduct and behavior that is quite off putting to most average peole of all races, they are even driving African American's out of East Oakland.

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  121. Brian, I was here and saw it too. The racists in San Leandro are either moving or leaving due to passing away. Maybe that's why SL has a lower crime rate today than 30 years ago.

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  122. Hey "Anonymous" who calls my faith a "joke".

    I reveal my identity here. Who are you to question my values, religion and beliefs when you are too cowardly to reveal your own name.

    My faith, work, charitable activities and support for the Diocese of Oakland are public and well known.

    Either reveal your name, credentials and qualifications to challenge my faith or...quite frankly...shut up.

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  123. I've been following this discussion for a while. What is remarkable to me is that those arguing that San Leandro is going downhill are not engaging in discussions meant to persuade. Instead, they rely on their own point of view and ad hominem attacks.

    Their statements seem to reflect a primitive belief system, rather than a careful look at what is really going on.

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  125. Surprised that Mr. Copeland is back out on the blogs aruging with whitey. Word on the street is that he's been on the "down-low."

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