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Monday, October 21, 2013

Legislators On BART Strike: 'The Time Is Now To Start The Healing'

LEGISLATURE//BART STRIKE | Citing progress between strike BART unions and management, in addition to the weekend’s tragic death of two BART employees, the entire East Bay legislative caucus is calling for an agreement tonight that would end the latest four-day labor dispute.

“We call on the parties to resolve those issues today and get the trains running tomorrow,” said a joint statement Monday evening from Assemblymembers Rob Bonta, Bill Quirk Nancy Skinner, Bob Wiekowski and State Sens. Ellen Corbett and Loni Hancock.

The tone of the statement also suggests a deal ending the BART strike may be imminent. “As Legislators and concerned residents, we have been monitoring negotiations and encouraging both parties to resolve their issues. Thank you to the mediators for their hard work, and thank you to BART and its employees for reaching to seek common ground. We understand there are only a few outstanding issues,” said the joint statement.

While reference the death of two BART employees inspecting train tracks last Saturday in Walnut Creek, the legislators said, “The time is now to start the healing. For the benefit of the public, riders, Bay Area businesses and the entire BART family, it is critical to get the trains running tomorrow.”

During the first BART strike in August, Bonta, Quirk and Skinner sent a similar, although less direct press release, calling for the end of the dispute. However, that statement was seen a more labor-friendly than Monday’s unequivocal message to both sides of the negotiating table.

369 comments:

  1. We need the strike to continue to break the unions. As long as we get legislation to ban strikes from mass transit that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la people!

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  2. I want to thank Assemblymembers Rob Bonta, Bill Quirk, Nancy Skinner, Bob Wiekowski and State Sens. Ellen Corbett and Loni Hancock for putting the pressure on management and the unions to end the strike.

    As far as the above post---you can tell the anti union Hayward troll doesn't commute to SF like I do or he wouldn't wish for the strike to continue. What a sad piece of crap who doesn't seem to care for the rest of us. We don't care who you blame---we just wanted a settlement to end our misery. Viva la people and the legislators that helped make it happen.

    Go back to your cave you heartless, sexist, neanderthal. LOL

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  3. You're so full of shit, union whore! Don't presume to represent the people, because you don't. We'll get our mass transit exemption and it won't be with the help of ass-lickers like you who are willing to sell-out the masses!

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  4. Hayward? The union whore supposes too much, and she's wrong as usual.

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  5. I want to thank Assemblymembers Rob Bonta, Bill Quirk, Nancy Skinner, Bob Wiekowski and State Sens. Ellen Corbett and Loni Hancock for putting the pressure on management and the unions to end the strike.

    As far as the above post---you can tell the anti union Hayward troll doesn't commute to SF like I do or he wouldn't wish for the strike to continue. What a sad piece of crap who doesn't seem to care for the rest of us. We don't care who you blame---we just wanted a settlement to end our misery. Viva la people and the legislators that helped make it happen.

    Go back to your cave you heartless, sexist, neanderthal. LOL

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  6. As long as we get legislation to ban strikes from mass transit that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la people!

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  7. As long as we get legislation to ban strikes from mass transit that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la people!

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  8. Agree with the above. Right on!

    Sure is sexist. You have female whores and male whores. Anyone who prostitutes themself on behalf of an entrenched special interest is a whore. Case in point, ol' Bob Bunta.

    As long as we get legislation to ban strikes from mass transit that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la people!

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  9. I want to thank Assemblymembers Rob Bonta, Bill Quirk, Nancy Skinner, Bob Wiekowski and State Sens. Ellen Corbett and Loni Hancock for putting the pressure on management and the unions to end the strike.

    As far as the above post---you can tell the anti union Hayward troll doesn't commute to SF like I do or he wouldn't wish for the strike to continue. What a sad piece of crap who doesn't seem to care for the rest of us. We don't care who you blame---we just wanted a settlement to end our misery. Viva la people and the legislators that helped make it happen.

    Go back to your cave you heartless, sexist, neanderthal. LOL

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  10. Agree with above post particularly about thanking the legislators for helping to settle the strike. Those of us who have to use Bart every day just wanted it settled.
    p.s. Use of the word whore is a sexist term.

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  11. The Hayward anti-union and sexist Troll lives in his own fantasy world. LOL

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  12. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

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  13. The public will be the winners in the long run when we get anti-striking legislation just like New York, Chicago, and other big metropolitan cities. We are way overdue, but the people will never be held hostage again by the big, bad, union whores! Never again!!

    We will be getting legislation to ban strikes from mass transit-- that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la publica!

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  14. The Hayward anti-union and sexist Troll lives in his own fantasy world. LOL

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  15. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.

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  16. She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.

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  17. The public will be the winners in the long run when we get anti-striking legislation just like New York, Chicago, and other big metropolitan cities. We are way overdue, but the people will never be held hostage again by the big, bad, union whores! Never again!!

    We will be getting legislation to ban strikes from mass transit-- that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la publica!

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  18. The Hayward anti-union and sexist Troll lives in his own fantasy world. LOL

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  19. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.

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  20. Love all the ass-lickers of labor; they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, which is why they come out the losers in this strike. Public opinion already validates that point and also that either through the legislature or the initiative strikes will be banned. Miss the train, so to speak, and you'll be left behind on the refuse heap of history.



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  21. The public will be the winners in the long run when we get anti-striking legislation just like New York, Chicago, and other big metropolitan cities. We are way overdue, but the people will never be held hostage again by the big, bad, union whores! Never again!!

    We will be getting legislation to ban strikes from mass transit-- that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la publica!

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  22. The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  23. Steve Glazer for Governor.

    A real Democrat for a change!

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  24. Steve: where do you attract these psychos on your blog? You need to do a background check before allowing to post.

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  25. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

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  26. Anon 7:03, 7:04, 7:12 and 7:13 are all the same Hayward anti-union and sexist Troll who lives in his own fantasy world. LOL

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  27. The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  28. Most antiunion letters express class resentment over BART salaries and benefits. There's hardly a word about the ratio between the highest paid administrators and the lowest paid BART worker. The unions are fighting for good pay and benefits as well as safety, and trying to stop the austerity policies that are sweeping the globe. If you want those salaries, benefits and safety work rules, then unionize.

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  29. The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  30. Yes we all know about the petition, but let's have a meaningful discussion if you can. Anyone who has been on strike knows what a hardship it is for all including the public, management and the workers.

    Fortunately, enough working folks have been willing to bear that hardship so that progress as the 40 hour work week, safer working conditions, overtime pay,child labor laws, living wages, the weekend and the right to strike have been secured for many of us.

    This right has created the middle class, which was instrumental in keeping our economy going as more of us were able to purchase the goods and services we needed and wanted. This middle class has started to shrink as the labor movement is weakened and our economy has weakened along with it.

    One of the biggest fights was over working conditions, particularly safety! A few years ago a BART employee needlessly lost his life as he inspected the tracks. There was not enough done to correct this and now two more employees have lost their lives needlessly. The lack of real leadership at BART, particularly their overpaid general manager Grace Crucican't, is quite distressing. Just saying.

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  31. No dice. I can support the labor movement and also be against strikes. Progressive communities have done this: New York, Washington, D.C., Chicago., etc. The fact is I don't pledge blind obedience to anyone or anything. On this one the public needs to be the winners. Not management; not labor. The PUBLIC.

    Change is coming, and that will be the everlasting legacy of these strikes. Just saying.

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  32. The only weapon labor has in it's quiver is the threat of a strike. It's disheartening to hear antilabor comments like yours. What possible argument can be made to support management restrictions on labor's right to bargain for their interest including safety. Without the threat of a strike it would be collective begging instead of bargaining. Or, are we only in favor of labor as long as we have no personal inconvenience? Women's suffrage. Civil rights. Gay rights. Labor rights. All these socio-political movements required great personal sacrifice and continued public pressure on a system that was rigged against us. People suffered a lot more, and for a lot longer, than a brief interruption in public service. Remember, corporations(which the conservative Supreme Court said were people) contribute 15 times what the unions contribute during elections. The unions are all we have defending worker's rights, even the rights of non-members, by setting a public standard.

    Do we now go back to the dismal and deadly days before workers were guaranteed the right to bargain(including the right to strike) for their labor, their safety and their families.

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  33. You're plucking your violin strings too zealously. The above made it clear, though it's not to your liking. Don't hand me that cock and bull about 'they HAVE to be able to strike.' Again, no dice. The above-mentioned EXTREMELY progressive labor communities have done very well while being exempt. Thank you very much.

    This is no longer the age of Upton Sinclair's 'The Jungle.' Nobody said anything about going back to child labor, workhouses, or even debtors' prison. [That last one might not actually be so bad, though that's for another time.]

    Fact is that police, fire, and others--including mass transit elsewhere--have not been allowed to strike and they're doing just fine. They have their union leadership; negotiating teams, etc. They do just fine, and so does the public. Again, no cigar. The public will no longer support this crap from a broken and dysfunctional system that is beyond repair. It happens like clock work every four years. That is why come hell or high water mass transit in CA is going to be made exempt. If the legislature doesn't have the balls to do it then it will happen through initiative, which is everybody's favorite sport. Again, I come down against both management and labor. My only interest is the public, who must be the winners.

    I usually don't agree with Don Perata but he got it right this time. He said exemption is coming one way or the other, and he went further. BART should no longer be a special transit district with electeds. It needs to be folded into the state's transportation system--such as Caltrans. This makes a lot of sense.

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  34. You are dreaming if you think the legislature will do what you want. The Supreme Court of Calif. has ruled that public employees have the right to strike and they have more conservative Republicans on it than Dems. Even Brown said he would look at any bill brought before him, but that management and the unions argued against binding arbitration, and he didn't see any way a bill taking away the right to strike would ever get to him. You can keep dreaming but it will never happen in your lifetime or mine. I'm not opposed to binding arbitration for public safety as the Supreme Court said, but it will never happen for public inconvenience.

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  35. It's on its way, 'friend,' whether you like it or not.

    Oh, if only I could bet you the deed to your house. I'd make a killing!

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  36. Sort of like a 'run away train!' Pun definitely intended!!

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  37. Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  38. Sorry for you, but the momentum has already started. All the newspapers are for it, and it has a lot more to do with public safety than inconvenience. Everything that needs to be in play is, including two people dying. Normally you would be right, but the public will have a very long memory on this. They are royally pissed at labor, as all the polls reflect. This one is too important and its time has arrived. As for DeSaulnier, he will carry the legislation because he is in his final term and has nowhere else to go.

    It's coming, either in this next legislative session or the one after. The public wants it and deserves it. There is also the initiative process, which has begun with banbartstrikes.org. Southern CA doesn't understand the bay area, so his point of view is less than credible.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  39. Wow--you do live in your anti-union dream world. Calif. is still a blue state and 99% of the population was not stranded like a few of us were. Don't get me wrong I wish they didn't go on strike, but you can spit in one hand and wish on the other---you still have only one wet hand. Anyway I'm glad it's settled.

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  40. Not a dream world here, but apparently it is from your end. I've already cited the media, public, and legislators. This has nothing to do with blue state or not. This is not about management vs. labor. This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  41. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

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  42. The above statement makes a lot of sense even though I'm not thrilled with it.

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  43. Agreed. 3:45 is right on the money.

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  44. I agreed that 2:58 and 6:30 were right on the money.

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  45. Sorry for you, but the momentum has already started. All the newspapers are for it, and it has a lot more to do with public safety than inconvenience. Everything that needs to be in play is, including two people dying. Normally you would be right, but the public will have a very long memory on this. They are royally pissed at labor, as all the polls reflect. This one is too important and its time has arrived. As for DeSaulnier, he will carry the legislation because he is in his final term and has nowhere else to go.

    It's coming, either in this next legislative session or the one after. The public wants it and deserves it. There is also the initiative process, which has begun with banbartstrikes.org. Southern CA doesn't understand the bay area, so his point of view is less than credible.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  46. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

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  47. Sorry for you, but the momentum has already started. All the newspapers are for it, and it has a lot more to do with public safety than inconvenience. Everything that needs to be in play is, including two people dying. Normally you would be right, but the public will have a very long memory on this. They are royally pissed at labor, as all the polls reflect. This one is too important and its time has arrived. As for DeSaulnier, he will carry the legislation because he is in his final term and has nowhere else to go.

    It's coming, either in this next legislative session or the one after. The public wants it and deserves it. There is also the initiative process, which has begun with banbartstrikes.org. Southern CA doesn't understand the bay area, so his point of view is less than credible.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  48. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  49. Sorry for you, but the momentum has already started. All the newspapers are for it, and it has a lot more to do with public safety than inconvenience. Everything that needs to be in play is, including two people dying. Normally you would be right, but the public will have a very long memory on this. They are royally pissed at labor, as all the polls reflect. This one is too important and its time has arrived. As for DeSaulnier, he will carry the legislation because he is in his final term and has nowhere else to go.

    It's coming, either in this next legislative session or the one after. The public wants it and deserves it. There is also the initiative process, which has begun with banbartstrikes.org. Southern CA doesn't understand the bay area, so his point of view is less than credible.

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  50. This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  51. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  52. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

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  53. This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  54. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  55. Conversation is now over!

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  56. TO THE UNION WHORE ABOVE:


    This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  57. To the ANTI UNION CHAUVINIST PIG above

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.LMAO

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  58. The anti-union troll's extreme predictions are really his opinions.
    Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, including me. His
    predictions or opinions are mostly proven wrong. Thank you.

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  59. TO THE UNION WHORE ABOVE:


    This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  60. To the ANTI UNION CHAUVINIST PIG above

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.LMAO

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  61. After a 4 day strike in which 2 workers are killed, management agrees to give another 3% beyond what the workers said they would accept if management would take the work rules to binding arbitration. How stupid was management? I'm sure the union would have got the safety work rules they wanted and management would have got the technology work rules they wanted in binding arbitration.

    Management also sent the wrong message at the start by hiring a known antiunion negotiator and antagonized the labor side needlessly. This $400,000 negotiator took frequent time off in the middle of negotiations much to the chagrin of most of us riders. What do we expect for 400,000 dollars?

    I do agree that we probably won't get anything out of the legislative process or the initiative process. One thing we can do is put pressure on the BART Board to fire the General Manager and reduce the levels of management to save millions of dollars over the next few years and put that money to work sprucing up our BART stations.

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  62. TO THE UNION WHORE ABOVE:


    This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  63. To the ANTI UNION CHAUVINIST PIG above

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.LMAO

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  64. This Adele Kanickerbocker, I'm the mother of Dorcas Wentzel, the one they call Space Ho. I just want to apologize to everyone on behalf of my adopted daughter. She has been nothing but one disappointment after another to her father and me. Thank the good Lord she didn't come from my womb. Hell, I would take two bits to be shed of that miserable bitch. She aint never had a man before. All she does is live in the basement of our Berkeley house and stay glued to that computer. I am 89 years old. She is 67. What a tragedy for a mother to have a messed up bitch like that for an adopted daughter. Hurts me terribly to write all this, but Dorcas is just nothing but useless. I have had to call congressman MR. Swalwells office to apologize for her. They know she needs to go back to Napa but I can't get that poor pathetic old bitch up there without the restraints. Dorcas can't do nothing in that election. She hates on congressman Mr. Swalwell since he's a man and she prefers women, in the bed to. Please forgive this old mother having to clean up the pile of shit that her pathetic old adopted daughter causes. My man and I are hoping that she passes from the earth fast. She is a real abomination. Tears at mothers apron strings to have a fat ass bitch for an adopted daughter.

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  65. This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  66. To the ANTI UNION CHAUVINIST PIG above who has the last two posts and seems to now believe he is Adele. He's been a number of different people and seems to have a serious mental problem. I do hope he gets help soon.

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.LMAO

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  67. This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  68. To the far out of this political world dreamer above:

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.LMAO

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  69. This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

    ReplyDelete
  70. http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    Steve Glazer, a TRUE Democrat for governor!

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  71. To the far out of this political world dreamer of the last 2 posts

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited above. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.LMAO

    ReplyDelete

  72. This is about the public and RESPECT.

    The public has been shit upon by both groups, but especially labor, for the longest time. I'm tired of rehashing the same thing over and over for your consumption.

    Bottom line: Whether it's through the legislature or initiative, my prediction is that mass transit strikes will be made illegal within the next two years. I know for a fact that it is happening. You choose to believe otherwise; that is your right. I stand by my statement. Conversation is now over.

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  73. Your days of free rides on BART on the backs of taxpayers is soon to be over, Space HO. Aint nothing but a union bitch!


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    Steve Glazer, a TRUE Democrat for governor!

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  74. To the far out of this political world dreamer of the last 2 posts

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it. LMAO

    ReplyDelete
  75. Your days of free rides on BART on the backs of taxpayers is soon to be over, Space HO. Aint nothing but a union bitch!


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    Steve Glazer, a TRUE Democrat for governor!

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  76. Hey troll, Steve Glazer isn't running for Governor, he's running for the Assembly seat against Tim Sbranti who is endorsed by your friend Swalwell, Joan Buchanen, Scott Haggerty, Mark Desaulnier to name a few. Your lack of political knowledge is woeful to say the least. Your opinion is even worse!

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  77. What a dick you are, ABOVE. We know Glazer will be the next assemblyman. That's a no-brainer.

    WE WANT HIM FOR GOVERNOR NEXT!

    You really are pathetic and a loser to disrespect the people.

    As for what Swalwell and the other union whores do, who gives a fuck?

    Your opinion matters to me about as much as each time I wipe my ass with your views.

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  78. What a dick you are, ABOVE. We know Glazer will be the next assemblyman. That's a no-brainer.

    WE WANT HIM FOR GOVERNOR NEXT!

    You really are pathetic and a loser to disrespect the people.

    As for what Swalwell and the other union whores do, who gives a fuck?

    Your opinion matters to me about as much as each time I wipe my ass with your views.

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  79. What a dick you are, ABOVE. We know Glazer will be the next assemblyman. That's a no-brainer.

    WE WANT HIM FOR GOVERNOR NEXT!

    You really are pathetic and a loser to disrespect the people.

    As for what Swalwell and the other union whores do, who gives a fuck?

    Your opinion matters to me about as much as each time I wipe my ass with your views.

    ReplyDelete
  80. Hey troll, Steve Glazer isn't running for Governor, he's running for the Assembly seat against Tim Sbranti who is endorsed by your friend Swalwell, Joan Buchanen, Scott Haggerty, Mark Desaulnier to name a few. Your lack of political knowledge is woeful to say the least. Your opinion is even worse!

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  81. The anti-union troll's extreme predictions are really his opinions.
    Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, including me. His
    predictions or opinions are mostly proven wrong. Thank you.

    ReplyDelete
  82. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

    ReplyDelete
  83. The anti-union troll's extreme predictions are really his opinions.
    Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, including me. His
    predictions or opinions are mostly proven wrong. Thank you.

    ReplyDelete
  84. The Hayward anti-union and sexist Troll lives in his own fantasy world. LOL

    ReplyDelete
  85. The Hayward anti-union and sexist Troll lives in his own fantasy world. LOL

    ReplyDelete
  86. What a dick you are, ABOVE. We know Glazer will be the next assemblyman. That's a no-brainer.

    WE WANT HIM FOR GOVERNOR NEXT!

    You really are pathetic and a loser to disrespect the people.

    As for what Swalwell and the other union whores do, who gives a fuck?

    Your opinion matters to me about as much as each time I wipe my ass with your views.

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  87. Petition Background (Preamble):
    BART carries nearly 375,000 passengers on an average week day. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that one day of a BART strikes cost the Bay Area economy $73 million. It also hurts our environment, wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million lbs of carbon into the air.

    New York, Chicago, Massachusetts, Washington, and San Francisco restrict transit strikes. Due to the crippling impact a BART strike would have on the Bay Area and California economy, it is imperative that the State Legislature provide a backstop to the regional BART Board through a ban on BART strikes.
    Petition:
    We, the undersigned, support state legislation to prohibit public transit workers, including BART, from striking.

    A BART strike will cripple our economy, hurt workers getting to their jobs, limit access to schools and health care, and damage our environment.

    The impact of a BART strike will be felt across the state. It should not be in the hands of a regional BART board. We need a statewide law.
    Sign the petition


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  88. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

    ReplyDelete
  89. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

    ReplyDelete
  90. The Swalwell troll/staffer acts like a child. So sad. At least if you are going to post 5 times try and have them say something different, instead of the exact same post. LMAO

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  91. Cleaning up Space HO's graffiti.

    Yeah, with this kind of publicity and deeds our district really needs a yutz like Corbett. Not in this or any other lifetime, me says.


    The entire congressional district is inside the BART district.

    As noted in both the San Francisco Chronicle and the Hayward Daily Review (Argus, Tri Valley, etc ) Corbett was part of, if not the most aggressive legislator trying to pressure the BART board members into giving away the store to the BART unions.

    This, after the public had made it clear that they wanted BART to hold firm with the 12% wage offer and to demand more contributions for pensions and especially medical and dental.

    Corbett was part of the Thursday night arm twisting trying to prevent a strike by caving in to the unions.
    The public saw those legislators as selling out the public's interests. Both that of taxpayers and fare paying passengers.

    The, the BART management under pressure, including that from legislators like Corbett, caved in and gave away the store.
    Popping up the wage offer from 12.0% to 15.38% overnight.
    Anger is not a unreasonable word for how most of the public felt.
    Corbett was leading the charge to have BART cave in to the excess demands.
    She can't disown the play she made to get the union vote and campaign money from the BART workers.

    I'm thinking many moderate Democrats West of the hills as well as everyone East of the hills is not going to be pleased with Corbett's working behind their backs to foist higher future fares onto the riders so that BART workers can keep their lofty compensation packages.

    Perhaps Corbett can explain why she was fighting to have BART union members get their entire families covered for full medical, dental and vision for only $129 a month when many of us are paying over $500 a month for one person and that, without any dental at all.

    Gold plated benefits and a excessive pay raise is what Corbett's pressure tactics contribute to.
    Guess who will be paying that bill over the next 5 to 10 years?

    The very same voters who reside in the congressional district that Corbett wants to win.

    Most of us won't forget her pressuring our BART board members to vote against our interests.

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  92. Petition Background (Preamble):
    BART carries nearly 375,000 passengers on an average week day. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that one day of a BART strikes cost the Bay Area economy $73 million. It also hurts our environment, wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million lbs of carbon into the air.

    New York, Chicago, Massachusetts, Washington, and San Francisco restrict transit strikes. Due to the crippling impact a BART strike would have on the Bay Area and California economy, it is imperative that the State Legislature provide a backstop to the regional BART Board through a ban on BART strikes.
    Petition:
    We, the undersigned, support state legislation to prohibit public transit workers, including BART, from striking.

    A BART strike will cripple our economy, hurt workers getting to their jobs, limit access to schools and health care, and damage our environment.

    The impact of a BART strike will be felt across the state. It should not be in the hands of a regional BART board. We need a statewide law.
    Sign the petition


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  93. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

    ReplyDelete
  94. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

    ReplyDelete
  95. Petition Background (Preamble):
    BART carries nearly 375,000 passengers on an average week day. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that one day of a BART strikes cost the Bay Area economy $73 million. It also hurts our environment, wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million lbs of carbon into the air.

    New York, Chicago, Massachusetts, Washington, and San Francisco restrict transit strikes. Due to the crippling impact a BART strike would have on the Bay Area and California economy, it is imperative that the State Legislature provide a backstop to the regional BART Board through a ban on BART strikes.
    Petition:
    We, the undersigned, support state legislation to prohibit public transit workers, including BART, from striking.

    A BART strike will cripple our economy, hurt workers getting to their jobs, limit access to schools and health care, and damage our environment.

    The impact of a BART strike will be felt across the state. It should not be in the hands of a regional BART board. We need a statewide law.
    Sign the petition


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  96. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

    ReplyDelete
  97. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

    ReplyDelete
  98. To the far out of this political world dreamer of the 1:30 post

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it. LMAO

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  99. Petition Background (Preamble):
    BART carries nearly 375,000 passengers on an average week day. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that one day of a BART strikes cost the Bay Area economy $73 million. It also hurts our environment, wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million lbs of carbon into the air.

    New York, Chicago, Massachusetts, Washington, and San Francisco restrict transit strikes. Due to the crippling impact a BART strike would have on the Bay Area and California economy, it is imperative that the State Legislature provide a backstop to the regional BART Board through a ban on BART strikes.
    Petition:
    We, the undersigned, support state legislation to prohibit public transit workers, including BART, from striking.

    A BART strike will cripple our economy, hurt workers getting to their jobs, limit access to schools and health care, and damage our environment.

    The impact of a BART strike will be felt across the state. It should not be in the hands of a regional BART board. We need a statewide law.
    Sign the petition


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  100. To the far out of this political world dreamer of the above post

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it. LMAO

    ReplyDelete
  101. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

    ReplyDelete
  102. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

    ReplyDelete
  103. Petition Background (Preamble):
    BART carries nearly 375,000 passengers on an average week day. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that one day of a BART strikes cost the Bay Area economy $73 million. It also hurts our environment, wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million lbs of carbon into the air.

    New York, Chicago, Massachusetts, Washington, and San Francisco restrict transit strikes. Due to the crippling impact a BART strike would have on the Bay Area and California economy, it is imperative that the State Legislature provide a backstop to the regional BART Board through a ban on BART strikes.
    Petition:
    We, the undersigned, support state legislation to prohibit public transit workers, including BART, from striking.

    A BART strike will cripple our economy, hurt workers getting to their jobs, limit access to schools and health care, and damage our environment.

    The impact of a BART strike will be felt across the state. It should not be in the hands of a regional BART board. We need a statewide law.
    Sign the petition


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  104. To the far out of this political world dreamer of the above post

    I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it. LMAO

    ReplyDelete
  105. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

    ReplyDelete
  106. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

    ReplyDelete
  107. Petition Background (Preamble):
    BART carries nearly 375,000 passengers on an average week day. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that one day of a BART strikes cost the Bay Area economy $73 million. It also hurts our environment, wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million lbs of carbon into the air.

    New York, Chicago, Massachusetts, Washington, and San Francisco restrict transit strikes. Due to the crippling impact a BART strike would have on the Bay Area and California economy, it is imperative that the State Legislature provide a backstop to the regional BART Board through a ban on BART strikes.
    Petition:
    We, the undersigned, support state legislation to prohibit public transit workers, including BART, from striking.

    A BART strike will cripple our economy, hurt workers getting to their jobs, limit access to schools and health care, and damage our environment.

    The impact of a BART strike will be felt across the state. It should not be in the hands of a regional BART board. We need a statewide law.
    Sign the petition


    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  108. I'm a Bart rider on a daily basis and thank the unions, management, legislators, etc. for the settlement. I believe this could have been settled a long time ago without a strike if the new management team hadn't hired a 400,000 dollar negotiator who specialized in causing strikes in other cities. He took weeks off in the middle of negotiations needlessly antagonized the other side. The safety concerns should have been addressed and solved in the beginning. As we just saw they were legitimate and management prevented them from going to binding arbitration. What a shame!

    ReplyDelete
  109. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

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  110. Agree with the 1:12 post particularly about thanking the legislators for helping to settle the strike. Those of us who have to use Bart every day just wanted it settled.
    p.s. Use of the word whore is a sexist term.

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  111. The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  112. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  113. I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  114. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

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  115. If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.

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  116. I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  117. The BART Board is scheduled to vote next week on the new BART contract. Here is the truth about the proposed deal and the consequences.



    The contract negotiated by BART management contains huge cost increases which will likely result in fare increases, new tax proposals, and will do nothing to prevent strikes in the future:



    Raises BART costs at least $67 million dollars. The final deal negotiated by management is as much as 48% higher than BART’s “last, best and final” offer. Undoubtedly, fares will be raised multiple times during this contract period and new financing proposals floated. This will seriously impact riders and taxpayers.



    Non-safety work rules are no different than what we learned in Kindergarten. The work rule changes negotiated by management are being used to justify the higher pay and benefit package. However, they are aren’t any different than what we learned in kindergarten: be honest, don't cheat, be diligent and responsible.



    Does NOTHING to prevent a future strike. The new contract continues the ban on training replacement workers until after a strike happens. Because it takes many weeks to conduct this training, the BART riders and commuters can once again be held hostage in a future strike.



    So, after suffering 8 days of strikes and 4 more nights of midnight misery as we waited to see if the trains were running the next day, we are left with an absolute surrender. And this will happen again, and again, and again, until we provide a backstop to the BART Board with a state ban on public transit strikes.



    I am going to continue to speak out against this contract and for the transit ban. I commend BART Director Zakhary Mallet for having the courage to speak out against this bad deal. If you would like to communicate to your elected BART representative, you can find their emails here. And, you can find a district map here.



    At a minimum, every elected BART Board member, whether they vote for this contract or not, should publicly support the ban on public transit strikes.



    More than 20,000 people have signed our petition. We need many more if we are going to create a political force to counter the defenders of the status quo. Please continue to encourage your friends to join us at banBARTstrikes.com.



    I appreciate everything you have done and we will keep up this fight together.



    Steve Glazer



    Council Member

    City of Orinda







    P.S. To see photos of our group of banBARTstrike.com volunteers delivering 20,000 signatures to State Senate Transportation Committee Chairman Mark DeSaulnier, like my Facebook page here.

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  118. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  119. Need to read 'today's' news, kid. DeSaulnier is now offering up legislation to put a crucible through the hearts of the dirty union whores once and for all. The bill will be debuting in the next legislative session--next Feb.

    The public wins and you lose!

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  120. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

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  121. I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  122. Union whores are running shitless!

    We love it!!

    Always for the public, and fuck the union whores!!!

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  123. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

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  124. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  125. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.

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  126. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.

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  127. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  128. BART directors should reject this flawed contract

    The latest BART contract shocker is the newly discovered cost of a disputed family-leave provision. No one really should be surprised: Most of the contract details have been hidden from riders, taxpayers and even BART's own directors.

    Every BART commuter and Bay Area taxpayer should root for the BART Board to reject this contract - not just because of its unsustainable costs and weak work-rule reforms, but because it does nothing - zero - to prevent the next BART strike.

    And get ready. Because another strike is inevitable.

    We deserved better. After suffering eight days of strike and four days of midnight misery as we waited to learn whether the trains would run the next morning, we are left with an absolute surrender. The contract negotiated by BART management:

    -- Raises BART costs by at least $67 million over four years. The final labor costs negotiated by management is as much as 48 percent higher than BART's "last, best and final" offer (16.4 percent compounded salary increase over four years, plus bonuses). This does not even include the disputed family-leave benefit clause - which may cost tens of millions more. Existing revenues will not cover these costs. Undoubtedly, fares will be raised and new debt-financing proposals floated.

    -- Adds non-safety work rules that are no different than what we learned in kindergarten: Be honest, don't cheat, be diligent and responsible. And don't skip the fine print - work rules changes are subject to binding arbitration, so they might raise BART costs even more. Management uses work rule changes to justify the higher pay and benefits.

    -- Does nothing to prevent the next strike. In fact, the new contract retains a key provision that serves to encourage future strikes: the ban on training replacement workers until a strike begins. Because it takes weeks for workers to be fully and safely trained, BART riders can again be held hostage by union leaders.

    This last provision is the key. BART management surrendered to its employees because it believed, in the face of the strike, that it had no better option to get the trains running again. It's not just BART riders who are hurt by a strike. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that each day of a BART strike sucks $73 million out of the regional economy. It also harms our environment by forcing riders into their cars and wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million pounds of carbon into the air we breathe.

    BART is facing escalating pension costs and enormous capital needs. The most disappointing element of this conflict is how it has eroded public confidence in our transit managers when future needs and improvements demand just the opposite.

    People have had enough. More than 20,000 Bay Area residents already have signed a petition asking state lawmakers to add California to New York, Massachusetts, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and San Francisco, governments that restrict transit strikes.

    This episode proves why a state law is needed to backstop a regional body such as the BART board. Whatever the board's intentions, it is not equipped to handle a highly combustible labor situation.

    The latest dispute over whether the family-leave provision was part of the final labor package reinforces the need to prevent BART riders and our economy from bearing the consequences of management and union dysfunction.

    Until our elected leaders listen and act, it will be deja vu all over again.

    Steve Glazer is an Orinda City Council member and organizer of the Ban BART Strikes Web page.

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  129. Thank you, Steve. YOU give a damn about the PUBLIC.

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  130. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  131. Here is part of a S.F. Chronicle editorial:

    Should the riders and taxpayers who are going to pay for this contract put their faith in management to come out of another round of negotiations with anything better. We say no.

    BART's directors should train their attention on how BART's top management and the chief negotiator brought in for $399,000 allowed a potentially $44.2 million mistake to happen.

    Anti union troll, even you should be calling for the firing of BART management. They are totally overpaid and incompetent.

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  132. The following is NOT a 'Chronicle.' It is a point of view submitted by a union whore carpenter from Berkeley. It is his fluff piece.

    The 'Chronicle' publishes all different points of view, even far out whack pieces by union whores. It is not the newspaper's perspective nor has it been endorsed by them.

    Always for the public, and fuck the union whores!

    John Q. Citizen

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  133. The following is direct quotes from two paragraphs in yesterdays Chron. in the editorial section---in your face troll:

    Should the riders and taxpayers who are going to pay for this contract put their faith in management to come out of another round of negotiations with anything better. We say no.

    BART's directors should train their attention on how BART's top management and the chief negotiator brought in for $399,000 allowed a potentially $44.2 million mistake to happen.

    The real John Q (non-sexist) Citizen

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  134. Thank you, Assemblyman Steve Glazer. You're the public's advocate.

    Always for the public, and fuck the union whores!

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  135. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    ReplyDelete
  136. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.

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  137. This is so over the top ridiculous, to now claim a clerical error after the vote has been taken to the unions to ratify. BART Board, ratify the contract and do not put us commuters at further risk of strikes. If you all remember, both sides had agreed on *everything* except the safety rules, and the need for the safety rules was highlighted by the unfortunate deaths of two workers, showing that the union concerns were valid. To go back to the bargaining table now shows bad faith.

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  138. Thank you, Assemblyman Steve Glazer. You're the public's advocate.

    Always for the public, and fuck the union whores!

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

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  139. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  140. The poison pill provision of the union whore contract was rejected yesterday, and today the whores have broken down BART so that it wouldn't run. Really hated to be right, but I'm batting 1000. The public is the big loser in all of this. Boy, is reform coming.


    I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  141. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  142. This is so over the top ridiculous, to now claim a clerical error after the vote has been taken to the unions to ratify. BART Board, ratify the contract and do not put us commuters at further risk of strikes. If you all remember, both sides had agreed on *everything* except the safety rules, and the need for the safety rules was highlighted by the unfortunate deaths of two workers, showing that the union concerns were valid. To go back to the bargaining table now shows bad faith.

    ReplyDelete
  143. Thank you, Assemblyman Steve Glazer. You're the public's advocate.

    Always for the public, and fuck the union whores!

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  144. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

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  145. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.

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  146. The poison pill provision of the union whore contract was rejected yesterday, and today the whores have broken down BART so that it wouldn't run. Really hated to be right, but I'm batting 1000. The public is the big loser in all of this. Boy, is reform coming.


    I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  147. Always for the public, and fuck the union whores!

    John Q. Public.

    The official representative of, by, and for the people

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  148. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct. The real John Q Public

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  149. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure. How does she represent the people?

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  150. This is so over the top ridiculous, to now claim a clerical error after the vote has been taken to the unions to ratify. BART Board, ratify the contract and do not put us commuters at further risk of strikes. If you all remember, both sides had agreed on *everything* except the safety rules, and the need for the safety rules was highlighted by the unfortunate deaths of two workers, showing that the union concerns were valid. To go back to the bargaining table now shows bad faith. What say you antiunion sexist troll?

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  151. BART directors wisely rejected part of this flawed contract, but they still must do more.

    The latest BART contract shocker is the newly discovered cost of a disputed family-leave provision. No one really should be surprised: Most of the contract details have been hidden from riders, taxpayers and even BART's own directors.

    Every BART commuter and Bay Area taxpayer should root for the BART Board to reject this contract - not just because of its unsustainable costs and weak work-rule reforms, but because it does nothing - zero - to prevent the next BART strike.

    And get ready. Because another strike is inevitable.

    We deserved better. After suffering eight days of strike and four days of midnight misery as we waited to learn whether the trains would run the next morning, we are left with an absolute surrender. The contract negotiated by BART management:

    -- Raises BART costs by at least $67 million over four years. The final labor costs negotiated by management is as much as 48 percent higher than BART's "last, best and final" offer (16.4 percent compounded salary increase over four years, plus bonuses). This does not even include the disputed family-leave benefit clause - which may cost tens of millions more. Existing revenues will not cover these costs. Undoubtedly, fares will be raised and new debt-financing proposals floated.

    -- Adds non-safety work rules that are no different than what we learned in kindergarten: Be honest, don't cheat, be diligent and responsible. And don't skip the fine print - work rules changes are subject to binding arbitration, so they might raise BART costs even more. Management uses work rule changes to justify the higher pay and benefits.

    -- Does nothing to prevent the next strike. In fact, the new contract retains a key provision that serves to encourage future strikes: the ban on training replacement workers until a strike begins. Because it takes weeks for workers to be fully and safely trained, BART riders can again be held hostage by union leaders.

    This last provision is the key. BART management surrendered to its employees because it believed, in the face of the strike, that it had no better option to get the trains running again. It's not just BART riders who are hurt by a strike. The Bay Area Council Economic Institute estimates that each day of a BART strike sucks $73 million out of the regional economy. It also harms our environment by forcing riders into their cars and wasting 800,000 gallons of gas each day of a strike and putting 16 million pounds of carbon into the air we breathe.

    BART is facing escalating pension costs and enormous capital needs. The most disappointing element of this conflict is how it has eroded public confidence in our transit managers when future needs and improvements demand just the opposite.

    People have had enough. More than 20,000 Bay Area residents already have signed a petition asking state lawmakers to add California to New York, Massachusetts, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and San Francisco, governments that restrict transit strikes.

    This episode proves why a state law is needed to backstop a regional body such as the BART board. Whatever the board's intentions, it is not equipped to handle a highly combustible labor situation.

    The latest dispute over whether the family-leave provision was part of the final labor package reinforces the need to prevent BART riders and our economy from bearing the consequences of management and union dysfunction.

    Until our elected leaders listen and act, it will be deja vu all over again.

    Steve Glazer is an Orinda City Council member and organizer of the Ban BART Strikes Web page.

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  152. Here is part of a S.F. Chronicle editorial:

    Should the riders and taxpayers who are going to pay for this contract put their faith in management to come out of another round of negotiations with anything better. We say no.

    BART's directors should train their attention on how BART's top management and the chief negotiator brought in for $399,000 allowed a potentially $44.2 million mistake to happen.

    Anti union troll, even you should be calling for the firing of BART management. They are totally overpaid and incompetent.

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  153. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.
    The real John Q Public

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  154. The poison pill provision of the union whore contract was rejected yesterday, and today the whores have broken down BART so that it wouldn't run. Really hated to be right, but I'm batting 1000. The public is the big loser in all of this. Boy, is reform coming.


    I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    If you continue to falsify my identity again, Space HO, legal action will be taken against your old, bloated fat ass--bitch.

    John Q. Public

    The official representative of, by, and for the people.

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  155. This is so over the top ridiculous, to now claim a clerical error after the vote has been taken to the unions to ratify. BART Board, ratify the contract and do not put us commuters at further risk of strikes. If you all remember, both sides had agreed on *everything* except the safety rules, and the need for the safety rules was highlighted by the unfortunate deaths of two workers, showing that the union concerns were valid. To go back to the bargaining table now shows bad faith. What say you antiunion sexist troll?

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  156. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.
    John Q Public OH YEAH

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  157. The poison pill provision of the union whore contract was rejected yesterday, and today the whores have broken down BART so that it wouldn't run. Really hated to be right, but I'm batting 1000. The public is the big loser in all of this. Boy, is reform coming.


    I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    ReplyDelete
  158. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    The real John Q Public

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  159. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.
    John Q Public OH YEAH

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  160. This is so over the top ridiculous, to now claim a clerical error after the vote has been taken to the unions to ratify. BART Board, ratify the contract and do not put us commuters at further risk of strikes. If you all remember, both sides had agreed on *everything* except the safety rules, and the need for the safety rules was highlighted by the unfortunate deaths of two workers, showing that the union concerns were valid. To go back to the bargaining table now shows bad faith.

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  161. I review contracts at my company, and I actually READ the whole thing. BART had lots of supposedly competent people to review the contract, yet they agreed to it with these clauses, therefore...they AGREED to it, then the milktoasts back off. Time to dump every single staff member and consultant that was responsible for vetting the language. Whether it was in there "by accident" or deliberately, it was still in there.

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  162. The poison pill provision of the union whore contract was rejected recently, and now the whores have broken down BART so that it wouldn't run. Really hated to be right, but I'm batting 1000. The public is the big loser in all of this. Boy, is reform coming.


    I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    If you continue to falsify my identity again, Space HO, legal action will be taken against your old, bloated fat ass--bitch.

    John Q. Public

    The official representative of, by, and for the people.

    ReplyDelete
  163. Don't bet on the legislature, because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    ReplyDelete
  164. This is so over the top ridiculous, to now claim a clerical error after the vote has been taken to the unions to ratify. BART Board, ratify the contract and do not put us commuters at further risk of strikes. If you all remember, both sides had agreed on *everything* except the safety rules, and the need for the safety rules was highlighted by the unfortunate deaths of two workers, showing that the union concerns were valid. To go back to the bargaining table now shows bad faith.

    ReplyDelete
  165. The new G.M. at BART --- she should be fired. She hired that tax payer rip off negotiator for $399,000, who took all that time off in the middle of negotiations and wouldn't settle the safety issues.She was asked to resign in Seattle for screw-ups, before she was hired here. Go figure.
    John Q Public
    OH YEAH

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  166. Here is part of a S.F. Chronicle editorial:

    Should the riders and taxpayers who are going to pay for this contract put their faith in management to come out of another round of negotiations with anything better. We say no.

    BART's directors should train their attention on how BART's top management and the chief negotiator brought in for $399,000 allowed a potentially $44.2 million mistake to happen.

    Anti union troll, even you should be calling for the firing of BART management. They are totally overpaid and incompetent.

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  167. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  168. After a 4 day strike in which 2 workers are killed, management agrees to give another 3% beyond what the workers said they would accept if management would take the work rules to binding arbitration. How stupid was management? I'm sure the union would have got the safety work rules they wanted and management would have got the technology work rules they wanted in binding arbitration.

    Management also sent the wrong message at the start by hiring a known antiunion negotiator and antagonized the labor side needlessly. This $400,000 negotiator took frequent time off in the middle of negotiations much to the chagrin of most of us riders. What do we expect for 400,000 dollars?

    I do agree that we probably won't get anything out of the legislative process or the initiative process. One thing we can do is put pressure on the BART Board to fire the General Manager and reduce the levels of management to save millions of dollars over the next few years and put that money to work sprucing up our BART stations.

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  169. Most antiunion letters express class resentment over BART salaries and benefits. There's hardly a word about the ratio between the highest paid administrators and the lowest paid BART worker. The unions are fighting for good pay and benefits as well as safety, and trying to stop the austerity policies that are sweeping the globe. If you want those salaries, benefits and safety work rules, then unionize.

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  170. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

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  171. The poison pill provision of the union whore contract was rejected recently, and now the whores have broken down BART so that it wouldn't run. Really hated to be right, but I'm batting 1000. The public is the big loser in all of this. Boy, is reform coming.


    I was right when I said that immigration 'reform' was DOA, and that was proven today. I'll bet on this, too. Legislature is already in the process of drafting and it will be offered up in the next session. Unions went off the deep end one time too many. It's precisely because of that that they have sealed their fate.

    No short memories here. I guarantee it.

    The time is now to ban strikes forever. Everybody sign:

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-bart-strikes.html

    If you continue to falsify my identity again, Space HO, legal action will be taken against your old, bloated fat ass--bitch.

    John Q. Public

    The official representative of, by, and for the people.

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  172. After a 4 day strike in which 2 workers are killed, management agrees to give another 3% beyond what the workers said they would accept if management would take the work rules to binding arbitration. How stupid was management? I'm sure the union would have got the safety work rules they wanted and management would have got the technology work rules they wanted in binding arbitration.

    Management also sent the wrong message at the start by hiring a known antiunion negotiator and antagonized the labor side needlessly. This $400,000 negotiator took frequent time off in the middle of negotiations much to the chagrin of most of us riders. What do we expect for 400,000 dollars?

    I do agree that we probably won't get anything out of the legislative process or the initiative process. One thing we can do is put pressure on the BART Board to fire the General Manager and reduce the levels of management to save millions of dollars over the next few years and put that money to work sprucing up our BART stations.

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  173. Most antiunion letters express class resentment over BART salaries and benefits. There's hardly a word about the ratio between the highest paid administrators and the lowest paid BART worker. The unions are fighting for good pay and benefits as well as safety, and trying to stop the austerity policies that are sweeping the globe. If you want those salaries, benefits and safety work rules, then unionize.

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  174. The public will be the winners in the long run when we get anti-striking legislation just like New York, Chicago, and other big metropolitan cities. We are way overdue, but the people will never be held hostage again by the big, bad, union whores! Never again!!

    We will be getting legislation to ban strikes from mass transit-- that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la publica!

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  175. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  176. Just heard that Toni Bryant is being ousted by the other union whores. That means the bitch aint going to have a cushy union whore job walking on the public's back and sopping up the gravy at our expense. Either the bitch is going to do her job her ass is grass.

    Other union whores take note: your days of slopping it up at the ol' gravy train are over. Public won't tolerate this shit no more.

    John Q. Public

    Always for the public, and FUCK the union whores!

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  177. Here is part of a S.F. Chronicle editorial:

    Should the riders and taxpayers who are going to pay for this contract put their faith in management to come out of another round of negotiations with anything better. We say no.

    BART's directors should train their attention on how BART's top management and the chief negotiator brought in for $399,000 allowed a potentially $44.2 million mistake to happen.

    Anti union troll, even you should be calling for the firing of BART management. They are totally overpaid and incompetent.

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  178. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  179. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

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  180. The public will be the winners in the long run when we get anti-striking legislation just like New York, Chicago, and other big metropolitan cities. We are way overdue, but the people will never be held hostage again by the big, bad, union whores! Never again!!

    We will be getting legislation to ban strikes from mass transit-- that's all that matters. The union whores are going to deliver that to the masses.

    Viva la publica!

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  181. After a 4 day strike in which 2 workers are killed, management agrees to give another 3% beyond what the workers said they would accept if management would take the work rules to binding arbitration. How stupid was management? I'm sure the union would have got the safety work rules they wanted and management would have got the technology work rules they wanted in binding arbitration.

    Management also sent the wrong message at the start by hiring a known antiunion negotiator and antagonized the labor side needlessly. This $400,000 negotiator took frequent time off in the middle of negotiations much to the chagrin of most of us riders. What do we expect for 400,000 dollars?

    I do agree that we probably won't get anything out of the legislative process or the initiative process. One thing we can do is put pressure on the BART Board to fire the General Manager and reduce the levels of management to save millions of dollars over the next few years and put that money to work sprucing up our BART stations.

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  182. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  183. " It is totally unprecedented for an employer, after extensive negotiations and where they have signed off on individual tentative agreements, to later come back and say, Oh, we made a mistake, said veteran labor attorney and Boalt law school professor David Rosenfeld."

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  184. The above comes from a freakin' BIGTIME union whore ambulance-chaser mouthpiece. What a douche!


    Just heard that Toni Bryant is being ousted by the other union whores. That means the bitch aint going to have a cushy union whore job walking on the public's back and sopping up the gravy at our expense. Either the bitch is going to do her job her ass is grass.

    Other union whores take note: your days of slopping it up at the ol' gravy train are over. Public won't tolerate this shit no more.

    John Q. Public

    Always for the public, and FUCK the union whores!

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  185. Now the anti union, sexist, foul mouthed troll thinks he knows more than a Boalt law school professor. When you get your law degree you might not sound so stupid.

    The smart John Q. Public not the sexist, anti union stupid one.
    Always for the public and not an apologist for incompetent management. LOL

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  186. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  187. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  188. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

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  189. " It is totally unprecedented for an employer, after extensive negotiations and where they have signed off on individual tentative agreements, to later come back and say, Oh, we made a mistake, said veteran labor attorney and Boalt law school professor David Rosenfeld."

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  190. Agree. Rosenfeld is a MEGA UNION WHORE!

    Hell uh bias there!

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  191. The General Manager of BART, Grace Crunican't, should be fired or asked to resign like she was in her last job in Seattle. She and other managers(and they have many multiple layers of management), are overpaid even more, with even more benefits, than the rest of the BART workers. She snatched defeat from sure victory. What an overpaid joke she is!

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  192. Most antiunion letters express class resentment over BART salaries and benefits. There's hardly a word about the ratio between the highest paid administrators and the lowest paid BART worker. The unions are fighting for good pay and benefits as well as safety, and trying to stop the austerity policies that are sweeping the globe. If you want those salaries, benefits and safety work rules, then unionize.

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  193. I stand by my statement that it won't happen through the legislature for the reasons cited. If it's going to happen, which I doubt, you better start the initiative process which will take a lot of money. Until the L.A. area is inconvenienced by a large mass transit strike that won't happen either. If you can get the Koch brothers or other conservative groups to kick in a few million the initiative might get off the ground. Better get started because they are pouring millions into other causes right now like Reed's pension initiative to change the California constitution in November 2014.

    Don't bet on it because people have short memories. Even DeSaulnier has backed away from his earlier position. There's not even close to enough votes to get it out of either the Assembly or Senate. It only inconvenienced some of us in the Bay Area and not for very long. A political science professor from San Diego said " until it makes me late for work, it's hard to have a strong view." Like it or not, I think he is correct.

    If you want to do it through initiative you better start gathering your OVER HALF A MILLION signatures now which will take MILLIONS of dollars. The big TEA PARTY extremists have bigger fish to fry in 2014 and 2016. Your prediction is worthless and has no political understanding behind it.

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  194. No one could really be that stupid, could they? How could anyone in BART's management side fail to notice what was in the agreement before signing it.

    What is clear is that these well compensated people either did not read the agreement or didn't understand it. Either way they should be fired for incompetence along with BART's legal advisors.

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  195. EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY!

    'SF Chronicle' 12-11-13

    If we're going to rely on mass transit, we have to make mass transit reliable.

    As pointed out by The Chronicle, Bay Area legislators have been promoting mass transit for decades. Californians like mass transit - when their mass transit systems work. But when taxpayer- and rider-funded transit systems shut down over salary and benefit disputes, it has a devastating impact on families and the economy. Students and teachers can't attend classes. Workers don't get paid because they're stranded. Worse, the traffic nightmares can impair the ability of police and firefighters to keep us safe. Nearly every major mass transit system in the United States is prohibited from striking. It's time for California to follow suit.

    Three months ago, I put forward a balanced solution to keep BART running on time while allowing contract negotiations to continue. It required BART unions to honor the no-strike clause in their contracts. They ignored it and went on strike a second time, disrupting the lives of hundreds of thousands of people. #BARTStrike was one of the highest trending topics on Twitter because just about everyone resented being caught in the middle - especially when both sides acted so arrogantly.

    According to the state controller's office, there are approximately 400 public transit agencies in California serving millions of riders on 1.3 billion trips each year. When union contracts are up, threats of strikes increase dramatically. Workers for the two largest transit systems in California - San Francisco and Los Angeles - have combined to strike nine times since 1976. Management is just as responsible for creating these situations, and enough is enough.

    Shutting down public transit is neither safe nor fair. That's why when the Legislature returns in January, I'll expand my bill to ban strikes against public transit systems in California. This is not a radical idea. It's based on New York's Taylor Law, which prohibits public employee strikes. That law was passed by a progressive Legislature.

    It's already against the law for California police officers and firefighters to strike because they provide essential public services. It's time we recognize that public transit is also an essential public service that must be protected. Public transit employees should be prohibited from abandoning the millions of riders who ride public transit each year in California.

    My bill is a reasoned response to a very real problem. By design, public transit is a day-to-day necessity for millions of Californians who have no other way to get to work, see a doctor or go to school. Local and state governments have adopted policies that encourage, if not compel, us to use public transit. It's not right to make people dependent on public transit but fail to make sure those systems stay up and running dependably.

    We must also adopt laws to keep transit running.

    Both management and unions claim they want to negotiate contracts at the bargaining table, and that's how it should be. Not everybody is going to like this proposal, and I know there will be intense lobbying to persuade some lawmakers to oppose it. It will take both Democrats and Republicans in the California Legislature to stand up and do the right thing.

    Public transit is a vital public service, and it's too important to be used as a bargaining chip against the needs of the people.

    Sen. Bob Huff, Diamond Bar (Los Angeles County), serves as the state Senate Republican leader.

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  196. I may not like Bob Huff, but his right on. Along with future assemblyman Steve Glazer, these are the the right and the left who will always put the public first.

    Good deal, guys. The public is with you, and change is coming in the next legislative session.

    Thanks for putting the public first.

    Oh yeah!

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  197. On behalf of the residents of Alameda County, we want to thank Senators De Saulnier and Huff for introducing the anti-strike legislation that will soon restore the rights of the PUBLIC, not the entrenched interests. We also thank soon to be Assemblyman-elect Steve Glazer for carrying forward our concerns as well.

    Gentlemen, you GET IT and give a damn about us, the riding public. We applaud your bravery against the bureaucracy and union whores who would and have held us hostage for the very last time.

    John Q. Public
    The official representative of the BART-riding public.

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  198. Oh yeah!!!!!!



    The two strikes that BART workers staged this year damaged the image of labor unions in California, particularly among middle-of-the-road voters, according to a new Field Poll.

    The survey found that 45 percent of respondents said unions do more harm than good, while 40 percent felt they do more good. That's a large shift from when the Field Poll asked the question in March 2011, when 46 percent said unions do more good and 35 percent felt they do more harm.

    Among those who described their political ideology as "middle-of-the-road," 47 percent in the new survey said unions do more harm and 36 percent believed the opposite. Two years ago, the numbers were reversed: 45 percent believed unions are generally a force for good, and 34 percent said they aren't.

    The latest poll's findings are a warning to unions, said Field Poll director Mark DiCamillo, heading into a year in which voters statewide could be considering a ballot measure that would increase public employees' pension contributions.

    "A lot of this is due to the BART strikes," DiCamillo said. "It may have only affected Bay Area commuters, but it was watched around the state."
    Ill will in Bay Area

    Bay Area voters, despite being more liberal than those elsewhere in California, are now especially unsympathetic to public transit workers unions, the poll found. Although voters statewide support such unions' right to strike by a bare 47-45 percent, a majority of Bay Area respondents said such strikes should be banned.

    "As effective as unions are in winning battles in Sacramento and at the ballot box, they may be losing the war in the battle for public opinion," DiCamillo said.

    Steve Smith, a spokesman for the 2.1 million-member California Labor Federation, said the results of one poll did not concern him.

    "The flip among moderate voters is probably due to all the attacks on unions that they are hearing about nationally," Smith said. "They are generally the voters who don't have a personal connection to a union, so they might not be familiar with how they can help people."
    Workers 'in the fire'

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  199. BART employees "continue to be in the fire for taking a stand for getting a living wage and decent health care benefits," said Anna Bakalis, a spokeswoman for Service Employees International Union Local 1021, one of the BART unions that went on strike this year.

    "Unfortunately, the riding public is caught in the crosshairs," Bakalis said.

    Unions in California are in better shape than elsewhere in the country. Seventeen percent of workers in the state are union members, compared with 11 percent nationally. And while union membership dropped in nearly every state last year, unions in California gained 110,000 members, said John Logan, a professor of labor and employment studies at San Francisco State University.

    Unions also retain political power in Sacramento. This fall, they persuaded Gov. Jerry Brown to sign a measure raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour - the highest in the nation - by 2016.
    Big issue next year

    Politically, bad feelings from the BART strikes may have an effect in 2014.

    San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed and four other California mayors are trying to qualify a ballot initiative that would force public employees to pay more toward their retirement. This month, state Sen. Bob Huff, R-Diamond Bar (Los Angeles County), introduced a measure that would bar public transit workers from striking. Steve Glazer, an Orinda city councilman whose constituents spent idle hours on Highway 24 during the BART strikes, has made such legislation a cornerstone of his Assembly campaign.

    Logan, however, said strike bans are unlikely to get far in the Legislature, where union-friendly Democrats enjoy a two-thirds supermajority.

    "And as for putting it on the ballot," Logan said, "do you think anybody in Southern California would care about that?"

    The Field Poll surveyed 1,002 registered voters in California between Nov. 14 and Dec. 5. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.2 percentage points.

    Joe Garofoli is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. E-mail: jgarofoli@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @joegarofoli

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  200. We stand by our previous statements:

    anti-strike legislation will be passed in the next legislative session.

    Oh yeah!!!!!!!!

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